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Old 06-10-2007, 05:51 AM
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It's not a matter of whether I like it or not, as it comes down to the plain fact that there is no evidence of God (that is what I mean by unnecessary.) The simplest explanation of the universe does not include a God, so he is unlikely to exist (Occam's razor.) I was only explaining why I don't find the idea of God awe-inspiring.
Our inability to physically see God does not exclude the presence of God. If you showed up in a library somewhere, it would only make sense to question what this library is, what books it carries, where it came from, and who built it. What were are seeing is the effect (the result of the action of the Big Bang). But doesn't the question "What caused the Big Bang?" linger in your mind?

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Unless we have seen evidence that it was sent by God the belief that it is is fabricated.
What in your opinion would be put under the category of "evidence"?

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Math is (I think) the deepest human way of discovering truth--sure there's more out there, probably a lot more. As soon as we discover it, we will certainly invent numbers to describe it.
What guarantee is there that we will even discover it?

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It doesn't matter how finite or how short my life is--I want it to be the best "momentary" happiness I can achieve because it is my life.
It's not about length but about the meaning we attach to it. This life would be essentially meaningless if nothing were to ultimately result from our actions. Why would there even be the duality which is present today if Law is discriminate to it now, but where Law (aka God) is indiscriminate after death? Why would the differentiation occur in our lives anyway? Just because "it is"?

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I didn't say it was irrational! I think it's a great question to ask, but people expect that there is always an answer, a deeper layer. Doesn't it have to stop somewhere? Not that we should stop searching--but we should not expect our searches to always yield fruit. Sometimes we must and will hit a wall.
If an equation has an answer, the questions of life must have one too.

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Nature is the reason. It prefers stability and elegance. What I'm saying is that nature at it's deepest does not have an explanation.
How can you say for sure?

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Why? Other people have different purposes. That's another thing that must be accepted. If their purposes run contrary to yours, inhibit them. You still have a purpose to fulfill given a finite lifetime.
If rape, murder, theft, and all society-debilitating activity were to overpower the good, then the people as a whole would die. How does that run in tune with nature's preference for growth? Should these crimes really be overlooked and accepted, then?

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Thank you, by the way, for making a great discussion and giving me a lot to think about!
Likewise.
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