[AidanMatthews216]

Originally Posted by Lychee

Of course. But the existence of the Creator does not distort the universe. It just alter your own view in a way which you don't like.

It's not a matter of whether I like it or not, as it comes down to the plain fact that there is no evidence of God (that is what I mean by unnecessary.) The simplest explanation of the universe does not include a God, so he is unlikely to exist (Occam's razor.) I was only explaining why I don't find the idea of God awe-inspiring.

That's assuming that holy text (some of them, anyway) were fabricated by humans, creating a deity. What if it really was sent by God?

Unless we have seen evidence that it was sent by God the belief that it is is fabricated.

I understand. Some people find ecstasy in math, in art, in doing adventurous things. But haven't you ever wondered if there was something more out there, something beyond math? Who's to say that math is the end?

Math is (I think) the deepest human way of discovering truth--sure there's more out there, probably a lot more. As soon as we discover it, we will certainly invent numbers to describe it.

We are living under blessed conditions where we don't have to worry about the basic necessities. I'm sure other people will disagree that this physical world is the most spiritual place to be. But regardless, we'll all leave the physical world so what would be the point in studying and proving the Rieman hypothesis? It might bring momentary satisfaction that may have some consequence on the world, but we'll die anyway, and I've read theories on how the world will end too. In the end, what would it matter?

It doesn't matter how finite or how short my life is--I want it to be the best "momentary" happiness I can achieve because it is my life.

You just said yourself that you feel at home in a rational world. Why is asking that question irrational? People discovered the fruits we enjoy today because they never stopped questioning.

I didn't say it was irrational! I think it's a great question to ask, but people expect that there is always an answer, a deeper layer. Doesn't it have to stop somewhere? Not that we should stop searching--but we should not expect our searches to always yield fruit. Sometimes we must and will hit a wall.

Nothing in this world exists without a reason. Anything superfluous and unharmonious is ousted by nature.

Nature is the reason. It prefers stability and elegance. What I'm saying is that nature at it's deepest does not have an explanation.

You find meaning in proving the Riemann hypothesis.

Not yet. But someday... so if you want to cash in on that million dollar prize... (j/k)

Others find meaning stealing from others, committing crimes, and causing injustice in the world. How are the two similar? How can they both reach the final destination without any discrimination between the way people lived their lives? That destroys the meaning and purpose that each person ever lived their lives for.

Why? Other people have different purposes. That's another thing that must be accepted. If their purposes run contrary to yours, inhibit them. You still have a purpose to fulfill given a finite lifetime.