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Old 06-08-2007, 04:39 AM   #23 (permalink)
ChefSalad
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A couple of things:

1) I'm not sure that all vegans consider honey to be off-limits. I believe it's one of those debatable rules.

2) 2% milk IS 2% fat. It has 40% of the amount of fat that's in whole milk. In fact, nearly all milk products are made in the exact same way. First, the milkfat is separated from the skim milk. The skim milk is bottled as is. All other milks have fat mixed back in as a percentage of total weight. 1/2% has 1/2%, 2% has 2%, whole milk has 5%, half-and-half usually has 10%, light cream has between 15% and 20% and heavy cream has 30% or more, as 30% milkfat is the minimum required for whipping cream.

3) I personally find animal protein to be absolutely necessary for health. No matter how a planned and calculated and worked at it, I could not eat a vegan diet and stay healthy. I lost muscle and gained fat (although I lost weight, those aren't the same thing). With animal protein (and lots of it, over 300g per day), I'm losing fat and keeping my muscle (even making occasional gains).

Having said that, I'm sure that some people do perfectly fine on a vegan diet. But not everyone does and not me.

4) I agree with the Librarian. I see no moral quandary in the eating of tasty animals. I'm not a big fan of dairy, but that's for other reasons. I understand that some butchers and farms are ridiculous in their treatment, but I don't really want to concern myself with that. It's not my battle. I do, however, try to eat kosher/halal meat whenever possible. Kosher/halal meat must be raised and butchered in a humane manner. It's actually cheaper than supermarket meat.
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