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Old 06-06-2007, 09:45 PM   #29 (permalink)
Kingston
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Originally Posted by Shindra View Post
Hmm. Self-destruction, crashing. I would see that as not being higher levels.
Who with right self-love would commit suicide or submit to alcoholism.
It does not take a polarized or high-lvl person to be at the top in a country or have high impact. Case in point: Bush.
The people who elect them and the people they lead are quite low lvl, which is why it does not take someone extreme to lead them.

Surely not all leaders are polarized, but my examples are. And I suspect that the historians from 4000 years in the future will not study Bush, but certainly they will study Napoleon and Alexander. To compare them with Bush makes me lol. He is not an example of great results, but of nepotism and stagnation.

In history they use a term called "place-boundness". It means it is impossible to judge people from the past by today's standards. As a member of Macedonian nobility, Alexander HAD to drink shitloads of wine everyday and conquer his neighbors, like we HAVE to file taxforms. It was in the best interest of a samurai who failed his mission to commit suicide. He could not live with the shame.

I think you will find other fine examples of darkworkers in scheming royalty of ancient Egypt and and China. I will not go in to details here, but many of them are ruthless. The had to be dark to survive. Again they are place-bound.

Most darkworkers of the past were probably not politicians, but we don't read about them in the historybooks, so thats where my examples came from.

In Napoleon's case, surely the same audacity that made him great defeated him in the end. He is a classic tragic hero with a fatal flaw. The perfect darkworker off course lives happily ever after, but Napoleon and Alexander were still polarized, and still manifested great results. That was my single point!
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