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Old 06-04-2007, 09:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Examples are Napoleon Bonaparte, Julius Ceasar, Alexander the Great, Gengis Kahn, Silvio Berlusconi, Vladimir Putin, Miyamoto Musashi.
Now you really convinced me that I'll (probably, I never close doors) never, ever polarize in my whole life. ¿Putin? ¿Berlusconi? Those are guys in LOW states of consciousness. Caesar and Bonaparte are a bunch of courage and pride with a bit of reason and loads of determination, I'll grant you that. But being determined to crash yourself against the wall is NOT empowering and NOT a good idea. Alexander was good enough to create an empire, but not wise enough to choose a proper heir before he died. All those people have serious flaws, are they supposed to be good examples because they've gotten into history book? That wouldn't stop many of them from being failures in life.

Musashi IS a great one... But I don't think he's a darkworker, though not a lightworker either. I totally agree that this one got to a high level of consciousness... But Musashi did NOT polarize. He could as well kill dutifully as be tender and compassionate towards women. He is an example of what you get by not polarizing, so I don't know what he's doing on that list. Musashi was a winner in life, life a total triumph. I have serious doubts about the others, and I think Musashi's life was totally un-polarized.

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I have some friends who are close to the level of love, both 'light' and 'dark'. They have the so called fire behind their eyes.
Yep, those are great people. Why do you have to polarize to be with them?

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They manifest advanced stuff. They are not that hard to find, you will meet them by chance / synchronicity when you polarize.
They are not that hard to find, indeed. You meet them by chance/synchronicity without polarizing.

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immediately after deciding that I would do "anything" to succeed in life.
What is "success" in life for you? If what Caesar and Napoleon got is your measure of success, I see why we're not agreeing.

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My life is indeed about me, me, me. I can only develop through other people, I enjoy the company of talent, I have a need for quality conversation. I have to be wise about how and with who I spend my precious time, just like the guys I mentioned above.
Who doesn't need the company of talent and quality conversation? Of course we all have to be wise with whom we spent our precious, irreplaceable time... Still... Nothing to do with polarization, just with searching for the best people you can find, and mixing with them.

I still don't see the point. Of course, there's the possibility that some day I will. But reading your examples has gotten me even further from polarity. If it works for you, and many other people, I think it's great. But, as for me... Of all the list of "successful in life" people you've given, only Musashi what I consider someone successful. Of all the ones you've mentioned, only Musashi is someone to follow... And I find him completely unpolarized: he was an extremely good killer, a server of others and lord of others, both compassionate and deadly. Darkworker? I absolutely disagree with that. The others on your list were merely notorious, not successful. Fame is not success. Wealth is not all of success. Political power is not success.

As for successful politicians... Willy Brandt, Olof Palmer, Adolfo Suárez or the King of Bhutan are what I would consider a good role model.

All in all, thank you for your answer. I wanted to know what people saw in polarization. I think I sort of grasp now what it means to others... I still find it extremely limiting, but if it works for you... However, I must tell you that I've never met a darkworker who didn't crash against the wall. So, I'll tell you the same thing you told me:

Take care.

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