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Originally Posted by Shindra

A darkworker can admire the power and efficiency of nature. A lightworker can enjoy all those items as beautiful.

And a non-polarizer can do both things. It's still two to one.

Originally Posted by Shindra

But right - what is the point of choosing one? Actually, it's a very big one. If you don't polarize, you'll be holding yourself down from higher levels of consciousness.

Who says? That sounds illogical, specially considering that in Hawking's book, the highest level of consciousness were filled with "lightworkers" ONLY. The very definition of the levels of consciousness stop the development of the darkworker at pride and courage. How do you know that if you don't polarize you hold yourself down? I don't think being ONLY a darkworker can take you higher than reason, and that's too high for what I normally see of darkworkers. I totally disagree with that: polarization may drag you down in levels of consciousness. Apply selfishness and don't recognize the genius and potential in others, and that's going to lead you to joy? Wrong. It is illogical even in writing.

Most "darkworkers" I've known never get higher than pride. They lose the joy of love and giving. It's a great loss. "Lightworkers" are supposed to lose the joy of the knowledge of their own potential and divinity. Another great loss. No sense in any of it.

As Steve wrote, you can experience/use the energies -3/+3 before polarization, when afterwards you can reach 10 - on a logarithmic scale.

That only depends on how hard you are going to work to raise your level of consciousness. It is ridiculous to say that you have to choose either -3/+3 or +10. I am saying I want 10/+10, and I'll go for -100/+100, because I would lose if I had to sacrifice any of the two.

Higher levels of consciousness make for an intensely rich and positive experience,

Sure, but what has that to do with polarity? Of course higher levels of consciousness are better than low ones. What I don't see is the reason why polarizing will lift me up, and not polarizing will drag me down. Only because Steve says? I disagree with Steve: I intend to go up with my levels of consciousness without polarizing, how do you know that's limiting? I believe I can achieve the state of joy without polarizing.

Truth is, you can only have very little of both. You can have many, many times more of one.

Who says? Only because Steve and you say, that must be true? I disagree... I can have many times more of both, because two is more than one, because giving is joy and getting is joy, and I don't know how on Earth you should get to joy sooner and better by cutting your sources of joy in half. It's preposterous.

By not choosing, you are actually giving up on a lot, an enormous lot. You're giving up a glory that is unlike anything at the lower levels, before polarization.

Huh? Do you realize that you are giving no reason to your statements? What you just wrote could be a believer telling me that only with his religion I'd go to paradise, and all others are wrong. I'm asking... Why?

For example loving all in existence (lightworker), or feeling unstoppably powerful and having a thirst for all of life.

For the hundredth time... Why cannot I do both things? I love all in existance, and have thirst for all life can give me, because my life is just as sacred and loveworthy as all the rest of existance.

The reason for polarizing is that you can reach higher levels of consciousness, become a better, grander person, have a consistently wonderful experience - and you'll evolve much faster, go through the levels faster, after polarization.

Who says? Never seen a darkworker up reason. And the enlightened, Jesus and Buddha admitted divine potential in themselves. They were mainly lightworkers, but they also recognized their own divine nature... So what you claim does not agree with what we know of people in high levels of consciousness.

So not polarizing is really, really limiting.

Then again... Why? Examples? Reasons? You say that polarization will make you reach higher levels of consciousness... where did you get that from? Who says?

Suffering, lack of higher states of being, comes from mixing polarizations.

NO.

Well, let's rephrase that. Not to me. Anyway, if reality is subjective and I believe I'll be stronger by non-polarizing, I'll be stronger by not polarizing, full stop. Still, I haven't seen why mutilating yourself will get you higher. You say "Polarization gets you higher, non-polarization gets you down"... I say... Why? I don't agree at all with that. I went up the levels of consciousness thanks to a higher consciousness and understanding of myself, meditation, hard work, use of the law of attraction... But, polarization? No polarization will raise your level of consciousness as the fact of getting to know that levels of consciousness exist. That alone makes you go higher.

Guilt is the most obvious example.

What does guilt have to do with polarization? Reason, logic and self-knowledge get you out of guilt, NOT polarization. Where do you get the idea that if you don't polarize you'll feel guiltier? Or, what's the reason behind that idea?

But notice that to reach higher levels, to be better people, lightworkers have to transcend fear, see fear, the energy which fuels darkworkers at the root, as an illusion. They also become humble (not neccesarily acting humble, but feeling safe leads them to feel less self-important, except as a being to express love) -

That can be done with reason, love and meditation. No need to polarize.

a darkworker does the opposite, seeing themself as all-important. And a darkworker has to discard compassion, which drags them towards guilt and makes internal conflicts that become anger.

Discarding compassion will NOT raise your level of consciousness. You can be angry and compassionate. You'll pass the state of anger when you realize that it's natural, and learn to use it to your advantage. No need to stop being compassionate in the way.

When one holds thoughts from both polarities at once, or shift between them a lot, this drags their energy down.

No.

Your problem might be that you have never seen the potential beyond this muddled state -

That's right. I don't see the potential. But my state is not muddled, and I find it pretty daring of you to say I have a problem. Polarization is still limiting. I don't see conflicts or muddled state. You act properly, you get the benefits of giving and receiving; your potential and that of others. Any less is asking too little from life.

Very few people polarize. But when you see the betters states of being, when you start to glimpse higher levels of consciousness, you'll see they're imcompatible. The feeling of complete love is as different from the feeling of complete importance as black is from white. Light's love for all of life. Dark's thirst for all of life.

No wonder very few people polarize, since it's one of the most limiting beliefs I've ever faced. Again: I want to love all life and thirst for all life. I can do both. I can enjoy both. I feel joy when serving others, and joy when being served by others.

You see, it's that. If you look at this set of data, you probably already know it. How for example your drive and ambition are not as high as they could be if you centered your life around service to self or service to others.

Au contraire. You don't get my point: my service to myself and my service to others ARE THE VERY SAME THING. Fulfilling my purpose in life is giving to others. Others fulfilling their purpose in life is giving to me. My drive and ambition cannot be affected by polarization, because then again, serving others is serving me, and serving me is serving others, both things are joyful and promising.

How there's a ceiling to your most positive emotions. Something holding you back from going all-out in what you know to be a good thing.

Hmmm... No.

Yes, polarizing loses you one. But the gain is really indescribable. It's like putting down a penny to pick up a briefcase with a million bucks.

Polarizing loses you one eye, one ear, 16 teeth, half a nose, one leg, one arm, one lung half a heart... And it doesn't give you anything worthy of that loss.