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Old 05-28-2007, 04:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DaveTyler View Post
Ok so again your saying God is consciousness remember the whole ego you is from the mind, the mind is not consciousness it cant ALTER consciousness with visualization or thoughts. You as a spirit is CONSCIOUS and aware but ur not the ocean.
we all define our understanding of source energy or God in our own way. Why do you feel compelled to have MAX define it in the same terms you do. It doesn't matter what we call it (God, Divine Energy, Imagination,Source Energy, I AM, Allthatis, or Consciousness). You are arguing for your personal definition which is an Ego hangup, that your way of defining it is correct and his is wrong.

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Ur a tiny tiny tiny little drop in it, your limited, If you want a cup of coffee, you have to act on it with your physical body. Cause thats what your limited to as a human. U can visualize a bag of money showing up on your door steps for years and it will never fucn happen if you dont do something physically for it to happen.
We are all part of that great ocean of consciousness, it is within us all. We are the perverbial drop in the ocean, but we are all also that ocean. We are that and it is us, all power of that ocean is contained in each drop.

Effort is required for creation on the physical level. This is toil.
when we live physically (ego based reality) and only perceive with the physical senses we experience physical reality and miscreation - when we awaken and become "Conscious" of "God" in us - toil becomes unecessary.

On the creative level, it is not so. as the ocean moves as one, so does humanity and if I use my imagination and creative thought the entire ocean of humanity will move together to make it so. It begins with the desire > moves on to a decision > which becomes an imaginative act/visualization > which then the entire creation working as ONE brings about and manifests into form. If you believe you can imagine a bag of money and manifest it into form, then you can. If you do not believe - then you cannot.

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So basically. GOD IS ALL, "You" dont exist.
but is it just me or didnt we all learn this by age of 5 why confuse it with all these Matrix hollywood scifi style. Fact is: physical reality: physical laws. thoughts neeeeever leave your physical brain... Its as simple as that
I question the belief that thoughts reside within the physical realm. I don't believe the physical brain could contain imagination. I consider the brain more of a database.

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I think you Overdosed on those red or bluepills (cant remember) and what about spiritual matters and kundalni etc. it cantbe explained by your mind. So it dont exist? Well I for one have experiences first hand so I know, im not limited to eyesight
we all have our unique experiences and find TRUTH in our own way - it is impossible to find truth anywhere but inside yourself. Once found, you can offer your truth to others LOVINGLY - but we all have to find OUR OWN TRUTH in our own time and our own way.
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