[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Johnny Soporno

In that case, Elias did not have any children. His partner did. Q.E.D.

That does not make a lick of sense. His partner wanted to avoid getting pregnant. So she took birth control (best chance at achieving her intended outcome). Elias on the other hand wanted to avoid having children. So he... uh... Hmm.

I am not intending to suggest that Elias's ex-wife consciously duped him into impregnating her - although I suspect she might have done so unconsciously.

If Elias had even suggested using condoms with her, I would imagine she would have freaked right out. Most women who take BC pills do so because they don't enjoy condoms, but don't want to become pregnant. If a man whom they trust to be disease-free volunteers to use a condom, they will generally assure him that he needn't.

Pure speculation. Or perhaps Elias just wasn't being quite clear enough about how utterly opposed he (apparently) was to having children.

Furthermore, getting a doctor to perform a vasectomy on a healthy man who has never had kids is INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING. (Most US doctors won't do it for risk of post-facto litigation in the event the man decides he wants kids later. In Canada, it is next to impossible to get a prescription [necessary with state-run medicine] to have a vasectomy if you haven't had children already. Doctors will simply refuse.)

That's as may be, but it doesn't seem that it was a possibility he even investigated. Still, you managed to do it. One wonders about the hassle of procuring one vs the hassle of having unwanted children.

He and his partner BOTH were using her birth-control pills as their shared form of contraception when she became pregnant the first time,, and then her Nuvaring as their shared method when she became pregnant the second time.

Unexpectedly, but not impossibly, resulting in their shared children.