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Old 11-08-2010, 01:03 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Indiana View Post
Elias did not use any birth control. His partner did.
In that case, Elias did not have any children. His partner did. Q.E.D.

Seriously, Elias's partner believed she was protected from unintended pregnancy, and was a medical professional, thereby fully aware of the likelihood of accidental pregnancy. (Myself, I can't imagine that she became pregnant accidentally, even once, much less twice. Every medical doctor should be able to identify cervical mucus, and would KNOW that the evidence of such fluid would demonstrate a failure in her contraceptive's ability to prevent ovulation and therefore her fertility.)


Combination BC pills are hormonal medications which convince a woman's body that she is ALREADY pregnant, so that the mechanisms of preparing and releasing an egg are forestalled, thereby eliminating the risk of unwanted conception.

If a woman skips two pills during her cycle, (Or removes her Nuva-ring overnight) she effectively defeats the hormonal regulation she has been undergoing to prevent conception, and therefore becomes eligible for impregnation during her next ovulation.

Please give this page a read, it's very accessible and well-written, and covers the essentials.

I am not intending to suggest that Elias's ex-wife consciously duped him into impregnating her - although I suspect she might have done so unconsciously.

If Elias had even suggested using condoms with her, I would imagine she would have freaked right out. Most women who take BC pills do so because they don't enjoy condoms, but don't want to become pregnant. If a man whom they trust to be disease-free volunteers to use a condom, they will generally assure him that he needn't.

Furthermore, getting a doctor to perform a vasectomy on a healthy man who has never had kids is INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING. (Most US doctors won't do it for risk of post-facto litigation in the event the man decides he wants kids later. In Canada, it is next to impossible to get a prescription [necessary with state-run medicine] to have a vasectomy if you haven't had children already. Doctors will simply refuse.)

This isn't nearly so cut-and-dried as some of you seem to want to make it -
Elias is not and was not irresponsible.

He and his partner BOTH were using her birth-control pills as their shared form of contraception when she became pregnant the first time,, and then her Nuvaring as their shared method when she became pregnant the second time.

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