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Originally Posted by Cantando  Agreed. He isn't anywhere. He just "is".
To give Him a label of "consciousness" is man's attempt to classify him, pigeon-hole him, so man can attempt to understand Him in a limited, human way.
He is beyond human understanding.
BTW, I wonder who first began to promote the concept of God as being consciousness, because, at the end of the day, that's all it is, a concept man has created.
Don't you think God may just be a bit more than that? |
I could be wrong here, but I think max meant that he didn't believe god could exist beyond consciousness. Personally, I would have to agree, because in analyzing my own self, I find that
I am consciousness. My awareness of my consciousness (in otherwords, self awareness) validates the fact that I exist. I require no proof that I exist, because I'm intrinsically aware that I do, by virtue of my consciousness. I think that is what Descartes meant when he said, "I think, therefore I am". It is one of the few things in this world I simply cannot doubt, because I simply know. But if I am consciousness, I can never know something that is outside of consciousness -- because consciousness is the realm of existence where this perception of "knowing" exists at. So if some god did exist outside of consciousness, he might as well not, because I will never know it.
Also, I feel that any definition of god is simply an attempt to understand it better. We are all humans trying to understand something infinite with our seemingly finite minds. I don't feel that giving what is referenced as "god" the label of "consciousness" limits it anymore than giving god the label of "beyond consciousness" does. And the idea that god is beyond consciousness is a concept too, ironically enough. So if god is more than "All That Is", I'm at a bit of a loss for what else that entails -- perhaps All That Is Not?
Perhaps a bit of explanation why you feel the "I" is not consciousness is in order?