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DanielBrenton · 11-10-2006, 05:55 AM

Andy --

I may be looking at semantics here, but I think there's a subtlety that I'm not hearing.

What I call Truth isn't something that can be described, just as the Tao states. It is a state of being. It sounds like you may have read some of my site; there I make reference to the Hindu saying, Ram Nam Satya Hey -- "God's name is Truth." At some point the in the spiritual path I suspect the mind finally quits trying to capture the universe in some kind of mental category and that's probably one of those "Bodhi tree moments" where we step outside of the modeling and conceptualizing and just be.

That would be an experience of what I'm calling Truth.

Of course, the mind would probably start working again and shut it out, depending on the level of our spiritual progress, I suppose.

And you're absolutely right (true in an absolute sense?) -- if I need you to believe my truth, then I haven't found It. I think it's entirely independent of what we think of it.

11-10-2006, 05:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
DanielBrenton Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 74	With a Big "R," (continued) Andy -- I may be looking at semantics here, but I think there's a subtlety that I'm not hearing. What I call Truth isn't something that can be described, just as the Tao states. It is a state of being. It sounds like you may have read some of my site; there I make reference to the Hindu saying, Ram Nam Satya Hey -- "God's name is Truth." At some point the in the spiritual path I suspect the mind finally quits trying to capture the universe in some kind of mental category and that's probably one of those "Bodhi tree moments" where we step outside of the modeling and conceptualizing and just be. That would be an experience of what I'm calling Truth. Of course, the mind would probably start working again and shut it out, depending on the level of our spiritual progress, I suppose. And you're absolutely right (true in an absolute sense?) -- if I need you to believe my truth, then I haven't found It. I think it's entirely independent of what we think of it. Last edited by DanielBrenton; 11-10-2006 at 06:00 AM.