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Originally Posted by nvictor  I used to think like you. Not anymore.
I think "love", "world-love based", and "self-love" are themselves fear-based thinking. So, let me explain.
Fear can be justified as a cause of love, but love cannot. Let's go back to nature [I told you, I'm willing to go back to caveman age  ]. Does anyone know the french quote "La nature a horreur du vide", meaning nature hardly stand emptiness [excuse my poor translation though]? We as living creatures can't live alone [fear], so we must express ourself to other living creatures, interact with them in many way [relationships]. And the best interaction possible is love.
Think about it. We have evolved a lot; fear has been passed generations to generations. And there are many many way to experience fear. One of the way is the cause of love. Go ask any psychotherapist if feeling of loneliness is not the principal cause of hate. I thought love and fear were equal force; I was wrong. Fear is more powerful.
I have thought of not feeling love anymore, but you know what happened? The thoughts of being an alone, useless, unloved creature make me recognize the power of fear.
See that. When you choose not to feeling anything, you feel fear
My new belief is that, when you have experienced extreme fear, you also know unconditional love, because fear is more than love after all. |
I think if you come from fear it is almost impossible (tho still possible) to understand what i am talking about. I am not afraid of being alone or anything like that. If i end up the last person on the planet, i still have nothing to fear. I would get a whole new experince.
You sound a lot like Niccolo Machiavelli. He thought fear was much better then love. People will act out of fear. While his ideas can be true, it only works on people who dont understand unconditional love.
The only way i can think to explain this is this.. Love transends fear, when you die, your fears are gone, but the people who love you, remember. Fear causes people to act out against you instead of ralling on your side. Fear may work on the people who are at lower levels of contiousness becuase they know nothing else, but people at lower levels are often pawns for people at high levels (ok throw things at me here, i am simply saying that people at higher levels can understand what makes people at lower levels tick because they have been there. Because that, if you use fear, you can minipulate them very easy).
Fear is a choice. You chose to bow to it, or to fight it. Love is just always there. You find it in people, animals, trees, the earth, everything.
While you look at the earth and say things like "If we ruin the earth, we will all die" and come out of fear, you can try to help the earth that way.
Or you can look at it like i do. "I love the earth and dont want it to be ruined." I dont fear it happening, i simply dont want it to because i love it. Just as one might love their best friend. You can fear they will die and leave you. Or you can enjoy every moment and have all the memories and simply love them for being here now, and do what you can to prolong the experince.
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Originally Posted by Lychee You can argue the same points you made but from a love perspective. Love is a positive force and fear is a negative force. It all depends on what side you want to be on. |
exactly.
Adrienne
