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Old 05-22-2007, 03:55 AM   #34 (permalink)
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escapee said: You know what i find funny about most of the vegans ? All of them seem to be extremely confident with their health status and knowledge on nutrition (The china study syndrome). Some even think that trans fat,processed food and refined sugar are somehow less dangerous than animal protein and fat. There's even one hard core vegan who think that a diabetic patient should be given ample amount of "low fat" sweet fruits and white rice. Some think we dont need essential fatty acids for living because there "oxidize". I'm glad it doesnt happen here (cough ... cough ) very often . But it does happen on a few vegetarian forums that i frequently visit (it's just so sad ).

If you do not "need my saving" ( cough .. cough ) then let your experience be your saviour. Be noted that when crap happens, the effects would be fast and your confidence would be shattered into million pieces.
The number of assumptions you make are astounding. I have not read the China Study. I don't eat transfats or refined sugar or white grains. My diet is approved by my non-vegan doctors and is responsible for my defeat of a medical condition that supposedly can't be managed without harsh medications. I would never give nutritional advice to a diabetic. Yet you have lumped me and all vegans (including the owner of this site!) into one big, stupid, helpless pile.

You mention that you hang out in other vegetarian forums too--why? It feels like you are determined to find failure in people who don't agree with you and with things like this: "Be noted that when crap happens, the effects would be fast and your confidence would be shattered into million pieces," that you are actively WISHING harm onto people who do not instantly succumb to your ideas and million internet junk-science links.

I have no problem with meat-eaters (yet another vegan stereotype shattered). I respect whatever diet works for each individual even if I wouldn't follow it. The majority of vegan threads on this forum are full of what is rapidly becoming disrespect ("dietary racism"??) has led me to believe that this perhaps isn't the place for me. Like not watching the local news, I have made an effort to not frequent venues where the mood is one of my-way-or-the-highway or I feel that I am not respected as an intelligent and conscious individual. Thirty-day no-forum trial? Maybe starting tomorrow.

Sorry for the tirade, everyone, it's just that there are so, so few places online that are not open season on vegans and I feel like this was one of them when I first started.
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