Pharmboy's and Que's accounts of the reality of the dairy industry sound a lot more realistic to me that those of most vegans. While I'm sure there are some farms that abuse their animals, I cannot imagine that most farmers, in good conscience, could do what you speak of, Dan. Are you really saying that so many farmers are so corrupt and have such little regard for life and for the animals that provide their sustenance that animals all across the country are being tortured? I'm sorry, I don't buy it.
I did say, though, that there's room for reform, and we should certainly provide the enforcement to fix up the bad guys or put them out of business. I'd also like to see antibiotics tightly restricted (only when the cow is actually ill) and organic methods become more widespread, but I don't buy the widespread torture arguments. Show me some impartial numbers, first, then I'll believe you. Anecdotal evidence is not enough to convict a criminal and it shouldn't be enough to judge the forthrightness of an entire industry.
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