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Originally Posted by Michael Chui  No, you suggest that physical laws must govern if you are wrong. That's not true.
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That's enlightening. That's what always happens, skeptics assuring me I'm wrong but
never attempting to back up their assertions.
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His book is a derivation of his laws. The laws of motion did not appear out of thin air. But you couldn't be expected to know that.
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What are you babbling on about?? Why are you talking about Newton at all? What has Newton got to do with the price of tea in China??
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We seem to be talking about different meanings of "law", so I'll drop it.
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No, we were both talking about physical laws and you keep going off on a tangent and not remotely addressing any points I make.
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Out of curiosity, where are the limits of your identity? What would it take for you to no longer be you?
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If I cease to exist or become one with others.
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Your conviction of consciousness has everything to do with the fact that you are conscious.
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Of course. Assuming otherwise leads to a logical absurdity. That's my whole argument, it's a Reductio ad absurdum. Therefore mental causality must necessarily exist, at least for that one thought "I know with incorrigible certitude that I am conscious".
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Don't bring something up if you're not prepared to talk about it.
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*I* didn't bring it up. You asserted that it is extremely likely that consciousness is a product of the brain. I replied that there is a great deal of evidence and many reasons to doubt it. Look to the evidence suggesting survival. Consider the transmission theory of the mind/brain relationship. I'm not prepared to go into it in this thread which is about free will. If you're interested go and do your own homework.
BTW unless you say anything substantive in your reply, then I won't be responding. I don't mind if you don't understand me. Just let me know and I'll attempt to explain. But I don't see the point in responding to you when you either go off on a tangent or ask me to provide arguments which you never disagreed with in the first place!