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yossarian · 05-12-2007, 10:48 PM

the very word "lightworker" is naturally going to be open to an infinite variety of interpretations

if you choose for that word to represent "consensus reality" then of course it's going to be a useless concept, since "consensus reality" is almost always inferior

personally i think there is a real thing good and evil but to find each thing you have to look closely at the intentions, attitude, actions, and effects of individuals.

To me Gandhi is not good because he fought for independance for India - in truth India would have become independant without him and the swaraj movement was around long before he. But he put his own mark on the movement, a non-violent mark, and through his civil disobedience he showed how to exert power non-violently. He showed that power does not only come from violence. He is "good" to me because of the life he led which was extremely loving, generous, joyous, kind, strong, powerful, important, and had very positive effects on the world.

The same goes for MLK Jr. The Civil Rights movement would have happened without him but he contributed his own style to it, which I think almost any human who looks closely at the man himself would agree that his life represents something very close to the concept of "goodness".

Likewise someone like Genghis Khan would be someone who represents a powerful selfish person. He is the epitome of successful selfishness.

So in the world there are certainly powerful and successful selfless people, and there are certainly powerful and successful selfish people. I look at these people and I label them as "good" and "evil" just to simplify things. If you disagree with my interpretation that is ok, of course, however if you want to criticise my interpretation you'll have to actually criticise MY interpretation, and not someone elses.

Personally I think the Spiderman3 interpretation is the consensus reality interpretation, and IMO it's a highly juvenile interpretation. I also think the Spiderman view of Good is juvenile, of course. Where Spiderman himself is full of hurt and vengeance and pride and stuff like that. To me he is certainly NOT an example of someone who is strongly selflessly polarized. I think you find better examples in reality than you do in fiction.

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yossarian Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,437	the very word "lightworker" is naturally going to be open to an infinite variety of interpretations if you choose for that word to represent "consensus reality" then of course it's going to be a useless concept, since "consensus reality" is almost always inferior personally i think there is a real thing good and evil but to find each thing you have to look closely at the intentions, attitude, actions, and effects of individuals. To me Gandhi is not good because he fought for independance for India - in truth India would have become independant without him and the swaraj movement was around long before he. But he put his own mark on the movement, a non-violent mark, and through his civil disobedience he showed how to exert power non-violently. He showed that power does not only come from violence. He is "good" to me because of the life he led which was extremely loving, generous, joyous, kind, strong, powerful, important, and had very positive effects on the world. The same goes for MLK Jr. The Civil Rights movement would have happened without him but he contributed his own style to it, which I think almost any human who looks closely at the man himself would agree that his life represents something very close to the concept of "goodness". Likewise someone like Genghis Khan would be someone who represents a powerful selfish person. He is the epitome of successful selfishness. So in the world there are certainly powerful and successful selfless people, and there are certainly powerful and successful selfish people. I look at these people and I label them as "good" and "evil" just to simplify things. If you disagree with my interpretation that is ok, of course, however if you want to criticise my interpretation you'll have to actually criticise MY interpretation, and not someone elses. Personally I think the Spiderman3 interpretation is the consensus reality interpretation, and IMO it's a highly juvenile interpretation. I also think the Spiderman view of Good is juvenile, of course. Where Spiderman himself is full of hurt and vengeance and pride and stuff like that. To me he is certainly NOT an example of someone who is strongly selflessly polarized. I think you find better examples in reality than you do in fiction.