[absvan]

Originally Posted by haider

Again, I don't mean to offend, but the vast majority of posts in this thread seem to be a play on words (consciousness, Consciousness, CONSCIOUSNESS, avatar, maya, etc, etc). The discussion is being taken into the realm of wishful thinking, precisely because people are defining reality based on what they want, and not what reality is really like.

I am not an enlightened person and so dont have first hand experience with SR. But having read the works of different enlightened people from different parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds, I am sure there should be a reason why they all speak the same.

Its not easy to understand SR, because the premise of SR is that you are not your body. Having been identified as your body for all your life, it wont be easy for anyone to accept it. Thats why there are different terms like consciousness etc which can confuse people because its hard to think that I "Absvan" is not Absvan but Consciousness -- What the heck does that mean

I think the problem here is that everybody is trying to see SR only with respect to LOA. I never understood SR the first time Steve wrote on his site. But later when I read books written about Advaita (where the focus was on spiritual growth and not LOA), everything became clear to me. SR wont be experienced just by reading alone. When you stop identifying with your body then chances are that you will get a better picture of reality.

So give it a practical shot before you conclude that wishful thinking and people are defining reality based on what they want.......not trying to offend you, its just a suggestion

I close my eyes and I imagine that there is nothing (everything is gone, including my body). One "thing" is still there: the "I" who's imagining this. As everything else is gone, there is only one "I", only one consciousness. This "I" is my true identity.

Nice experiment.