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Old 05-11-2007, 01:55 PM
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No, LOL if you think enlightenment is permanent the first time youve got it wrong, you get peaks, not FULL enlightenment, ************ takes time.
If time were involved, thought would be in operation. Thought is a product of the past. How can it bring us into now?

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Who was doing the laughing? My body, it's known as the cosmic joke, read upon it its a well known phenomena;P
I am not sure if reading about those kind of things can free any of us. Why not just look within? What can an idea do for me? All thoughts are old, and if we could free ourselves with knowledge, it would have already happened.

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How it could stop? I willed it to stop cause I didnt feel ready to die.
I felt too connected to the whole existance, I was afraid to move incase I'd kick the world out of it's axis.
Why do you think that the experience you speak of is somehow separate from any other aspect of life? You are connected no matter what. It really doesn't matter what you do. You may or may not believe it, though.

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Energy of love surrounded my body, it was beautiful but for a teenager with no prior preparation I wasn't ready. I regret it now, but at the time "you" die its just as scary for your ego as if someone put a gun infront of you and aimed it at your head, either you move or you die...
For the ego its a simple choice.
But if you die, how can the ego stop you? How can your thought, when seen for what it is, how can it have any power over you? Fear is a creation of thought. If one is afraid of the result, they have not seen any result; they have only seen fear.

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And no its not a fantasy, Ive tried to escape this happening to me for 2 years when my kundalini somehow spontaneously awakened, back then I didnt even know what God was, or kundalini for that matter, I was sure I was turning crazy.
I don't know what God is, or kundalini for that matter. How can any of that help me? It is not a matter of being close-minded; I am just asking a question. How can it help?

And how is it possible to escape from what you already have?

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Constant panic attacks, wondering if the whole world was fake.
I can see you dont know enough about it, and no, everyone doesnt experience it the same way, everyones experience is unique.
I suggest you read more about it and see that the enlightening peaks isn't permanent enlightenment
You are right. I don't know anything about it. Knowledge doesn't interfere if you are in the moment. How can it? If I know it, I know nothing. How can you know what the past cannot interfere with? (not you personally. it is just a question)

Events in people's lives might be unique, but experience is not. There is a difference, and that is all that I am talking about. Not necessarily the individual events.

Again, when you say experience you imply knowledge. How can knowledge set anyone free? I am not saying it can or cannot. I am just asking.

If I read something and accept it as true, what does it do for me? If I read about the "truth" of enlightenment, and I beleive it, then aren't I just copying someone else? How can that speak for me? You might say that it depends on experience. But how can that be? Experience is always of the past and dead. How can the past bring me into the moment?

When some speak of experience, they might be talking about the individual events that have happened to them in some sort of sequence, i.e., I was hit by a car, she is divorced, he has failed algebra, etc. But when I am talking about experience, I am talking about the whole thing, not just the fragments. Don't look at experiences, but see what is experience.

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and wht do you mean with "dont loo within cause youll be destroyed beyond repair" whta kind of shitis that
Unless I have not made myself clear, which is of course entirely possible, all of the words leading up to that sentence are what it means. I guess you could say, if you want to stay safe in whatever your thoughts and beliefs are, then do not question your thoughts. If you go deep and question, nothing will ever be the same again.
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