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Old 05-10-2007, 07:15 AM   #70 (permalink)
Michael Chui
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Thanks for asking clarifying questions- I must admit I'm being a parrot of listening to Bruce Liption stuff.
Questions are a good habit. Helps to keep you from being programmed by someone else.

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A self conscious mind, I gather, is a definition of that part of you that isn't programmed into the subconsiousness. So that answer to : is a self-conscious mind programmed? would be no - kind of by it's definition.
Instead of responding directly to this, I'd like ask whether or not you consider yourself a competent computer programmer. I'm not presuming that you are one at all, but that falls inside the parameters of the question.

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that line is that only theconscious part is able to hold and imagine the concept of time. Anything that can't or doesn't have that ability is the subconscious.
Near as I can tell, this definition does not make any kind of statement regarding programs. Awareness of time does not seem to suggest in inability to be "programmed": can you spell out the connection for me?

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The thinking mind, or that part of us that is aware and flexible and not habitual and free will, is capable of conceptualizing and looking forward or remembering the past - this is a function of our awareness. The subconscious is not able to think like that - it's just programed responses.
So, let me ask something: can you show that the "thinking mind" exists, within the frame of a history? (Speaking of which, have you ever read a biography or full-page obituary, such as can be found in The Economist?)

Also, I've mentioned economics in this thread before, but I just discovered this Wikipedia page, which might be of interest: Experimental economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (And this article is really, really shoddy by Wikipedia standards; I'm going to go hunting for how to flag an article as needing clean up.)

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