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absvan · 05-10-2007, 01:57 AM

I am not sure why this is causing so much confusion here. A lot of people have been saying that its crazy/psychotic etc etc. The problem everybody has understanding Steve and SR is because we are trying to see SR through the eyes of our body aka ego. I prefer to call SR Advaita Vedanta and thats what I will be using here.

In Advaita, anything related to body/form is unreal. Get that into your head before you proceed

. So when Steve says that he is the only one who is conscious here, he means it from the "Enlightened" aka "Oneness" perspective. He is not the Steve who ran the California Marathon or the father of two kids. He is the "I". I dont know if I can even use the word "he" to describe the "I"....because there is no description for it. What is the "I"? "I" is all that is...not a body or a man or a woman. "I" is the consciousness/awareness which always has been - no birth or death. So from that perspective, when Steve says that I am only one who is conscious, he (I) is absolutely right. Let me explain with an example.

Lets say I met an enightened teacher who taught me the concept of Advaita and powerful meditations. After a couple of years of intense meditation, I became enlightened. What happens to me then??? I realize that the "Absvan" was a dream and I am not the body but one with the spirit. I am all that is. There is nothing that is not I. Also, I will realize that the "Absvan" is unreal and everybody in the dream including the teacher who taught me is unreal - (Note: I am refering to the bodies and the POV of our senses.). Its a dream that I created. and to experience the dream from a first hand POV I take the body of Absvan and everybody I interact with in the dream are unreal. So from this POV who is the only one conscious here. - I.......not the body of Absvan but the "I" in Absvan. Everybody else are just bodies walking which "I" created for the dream. So if something bad happens like the shootings in Virginia Tech, "I" in the body of Absvan would ask, why did I create this?? etc etc etc.... where as the ego of Absvan or the real Absvan (body) would say - Why did that crazy guy shoot them??

Well I am not enlightened and so I havent experienced this oneness. This is what I have learnt in my quest to understand SR/Advaita. I am currently readin "I am that" - a classic.

05-10-2007, 01:57 AM	#34 (permalink)
absvan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 376	I am not sure why this is causing so much confusion here. A lot of people have been saying that its crazy/psychotic etc etc. The problem everybody has understanding Steve and SR is because we are trying to see SR through the eyes of our body aka ego. I prefer to call SR Advaita Vedanta and thats what I will be using here. In Advaita, anything related to body/form is unreal. Get that into your head before you proceed . So when Steve says that he is the only one who is conscious here, he means it from the "Enlightened" aka "Oneness" perspective. He is not the Steve who ran the California Marathon or the father of two kids. He is the "I". I dont know if I can even use the word "he" to describe the "I"....because there is no description for it. What is the "I"? "I" is all that is...not a body or a man or a woman. "I" is the consciousness/awareness which always has been - no birth or death. So from that perspective, when Steve says that I am only one who is conscious, he (I) is absolutely right. Let me explain with an example. Lets say I met an enightened teacher who taught me the concept of Advaita and powerful meditations. After a couple of years of intense meditation, I became enlightened. What happens to me then??? I realize that the "Absvan" was a dream and I am not the body but one with the spirit. I am all that is. There is nothing that is not I. Also, I will realize that the "Absvan" is unreal and everybody in the dream including the teacher who taught me is unreal - (Note: I am refering to the bodies and the POV of our senses.). Its a dream that I created. and to experience the dream from a first hand POV I take the body of Absvan and everybody I interact with in the dream are unreal. So from this POV who is the only one conscious here. - I.......not the body of Absvan but the "I" in Absvan. Everybody else are just bodies walking which "I" created for the dream. So if something bad happens like the shootings in Virginia Tech, "I" in the body of Absvan would ask, why did I create this?? etc etc etc.... where as the ego of Absvan or the real Absvan (body) would say - Why did that crazy guy shoot them?? Well I am not enlightened and so I havent experienced this oneness. This is what I have learnt in my quest to understand SR/Advaita. I am currently readin "I am that" - a classic. Last edited by absvan; 05-10-2007 at 02:05 AM.