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Originally Posted by Lychee  If your claim is that there is no objective reality, then what is the reality which subjective reality is standing upon? |
To save time, here's what I said to Periton. It covers the points you're making.
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The way I see is, there are many entitites, all coming from their subjective perceptions. The meeting ground we call the "objective world".
I sense it's still not "objective" but rather more agreeing upon, but still in their subjective worlds.
Like the internet. We all are in our own worlds, (at rest at our computers) but all meet in 'cyberspace'.
Is this 'cyberspace' a place?
Is it an 'objective' world?
No not really.
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I think the matrix shows how it is, but not all the way. There's a lot missing.
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Originally Posted by Lychee Perception is subjective. But what is our perception based on? Something that is concrete and unchanging. |
That's an interesting statement.
But is it really?
Not really.
If you have subjective perception, there's no external influence.
(See definition towards top of thread.)
The problem we have is asking ourselves how can all that we perceive possibly be subjective?
But the fact is, it is.
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Originally Posted by Lychee What truth we accept for ourselves is the truth for our subjective reality. But it does not mean that there is no Ultimate Truth, independent of our perceptions. |
But how will you ever know this truth, if all you ever can do is percieve subjectively?
..........Which leads me to the conclusion that since we're eternal, and all we can do is perceive subjectively, then we are the truth.