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Originally Posted by Person Isac 
There are more but they mostly apply to a tournament setting (no attacking the guy during a time-out and such). My point is that I personally would not recommend using sport-fighting tactics against someone who isn't playing by your rules. Anyway, another point I was making is that if you're going to fight, do some damage. I wasn't trying to say, "Eye gouges alway work" so much as "If you get the chance, take it."
On that same note, if you get the chance to leave without maiming anybody, so much the better.
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What I'm saying is that is you find yourself in a grappling situation, having good submission skills could really make a difference. An eye poke is a tool that could help, if you get a chance, but submissions are of the same vein - if you get a chance use it. Getting bit could be a drag but it's often survivable and if you can put your opponent out it could be a life saver.
My grappling instructor had a big chunk bitten out of his arm by someone but he did choke them out unconscious. I don't know if THAT was worth the trouble in that case (probably not), but for a woman being attacked with no one else around (which is a common senario) then it would be worthwhile.
During my 9yrs in Boston there was 1 rape in Beacon Hill and a string of concurrent rapes (5) in the North End, the Italian/Italian restaurant district.
Every time it was a lone attacker. The Beacon Hill guy was caught. The other serial rapist was never found.
All of his victims were submitted by strikes first. Everyone knows how to eye poke, the human hand-eye coordination of an untrained adult is well equipped to perform a close range eye poke. Look at a spot 2 feet away, look how quick you can jab your thumb into it. Yet this wasn't an option, the attacker is looking for some type of defensive eye gouge, when you choose to attack someone like that, they have free reign to perform any type of injury on you, I'm sure those attackers are really on the defense. Self defense courses sort of assume attackers are open too all kinds of attacks.
So having multiple skills is good. Any movement of you arms will cause the attacker to continue striking down if that's his method of submission.
so you might be able to be sneaky with your legs for a triangle or a sudden armbar.
The female instructor I knew, had the ability to do this: the very second I got between her legs while she was lying on her back she would grab one of my arms, before I knew what was happening or could at least throw down a fake punch her legs would be around my arm and one ankle pushing against my throat, pushing my head away, the next split second my arm would be fully stuck in an armbar, her hips pushing against my elbow. She could snap my arm backwards in an instant but she holds off giving me a second to tap out.
There is no time to bite because my mouth is busy screaming in pain (it's also being pushed away by a leg), that's without performing th actual break, just threatening. You tap and scream at the same time.
Her triangle is worse, your between her legs, then it's suddenly like a python is squeezing your arm/shoulder into your neck and you can't breathe. You cannot see it coming. The only thing you could bite is your own shoulder. Your head immediately feels like it's going to explode, your see little stars, get tunnel vision and tap as fast as you can. If you're not fast enough you wake up a few seconds later, people asking "are you ok?". You are ok, just a little foggy.
If she held that choke however you'd be dead or really messed up.
These skills are really last resort things and not always going to work. But I do know when you grapple with someone unexperienced it's not like trading punches with someone unexperienced.
An unexperienced puncher still poses a threat, they can still throw dangerous punches. An unexperienced grappler is still dangerous of course because they can still punch BUT they are so open to submission attacks it's surprising. Unknowingly they almost always GIVE you their neck or arm for a submission. It's something good to add to the arsenal.
But yeah, everyone has to be alert, that's the main thing. I'm not worried about rapists but I for example, do not walk around after dark in bad areas.
If I have to I'd take a cab