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Old 09-02-2010, 09:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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As for Krav Maga, there are legit cases of it being successful against knife attacks. Saying "X works, Y doesn't" is generalizing. I do agree though that it probably won't and you do have a very high chance of getting cut up, even if you have a knife too.
Well yeah, it is generalizing because karate could "work" and there are all sorts of variables that effect outcomes. But generalizing is something we have to do all the time. It's a vague but quick way to express a concept with going into detail.
If someone wants to know why someone would say karate doesn't "work" it can be examined further. It's more of a probabilistic statement than a literal statement.



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True that knives are not often involved in rapes. I never said they were. Personally, I don't believe that submitting the guy is the best option. Maybe if you softened him up with something like an eye-gouge, an ear-tear, a blow to the trachea or a very hard nutshot first but I personally would not tell someone to use sport martial arts in a serious situation. If you know Jujitsu, break something or maybe choke him out if you're very confident.
Well a submission ends in a broken arm, leg or being choked out. Usually if you are in a position to do an armbar or shoulder submission you can transition to some type of choke to put the attacker out.

If you take some low-life, jailhouse, beaten by his father, and is now a seriously pissed off phycotic and poke his eye, he'll try to kill you and it might work. Both eyes would be better. But it's easy to miss in combat. Once he realized you're going for eye-pokes as a tactic I think it's likely he's going to start raining down punches.
Submissions are sneaky, usually you don't realize what's happening until it's too late. If he's between your legs and your on your back the triangle choke is right there.
you can probably see it on youtube.



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