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Originally Posted by ZHereford  will be happy to move on and there is no doubt in my mind that physical death on earth is just that - physical death.
Have any of you read books like "Life After Life" and "The Light Beyond" by Raymond Moody and other books about near death experiences? It's something to think about. |
I'm glad you have no doubts that once you die your spirit will keep existing, how did you become so sure of it?
Maybe you had an experience where you died, went to the other world, saw how it is, talked to the Spirit Chief, then the Spirit Chief explained to you some things about the after life, then once your conversation was over the Spirit Chief liked you and decided to send you back to life and make you rich -he told you the winning numbers of the lottery- and you went back and bet those numbers on the lottery and amazingly they were right and made you a millionaire?
If i had such an experience myself i would too have
no doubt about an afterlife, but so far i haven't been very lucky on that
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Originally Posted by Paul C Although having a extremely extended life span would be a very interesting experience. We must understand that it's truely inevitable that the physcial form is going to be wiped out, regardless of of how safe you think you are, or how many more years you have survived. Think about it- your life is extended, you avoid every dangerous situation possible through the many thousands years of your life- Murder, accident, force of nature, etc.
But in the end it becomes a matter of trying to avoid every possibility within the universe, which could become increasingly harder to avoid. Such as the solar system being obliterated, just to name one. Unless of course you had within your resources a way of escaping that, which would just lead to you needing to avoid an even larger force of power. So that brings up the question, can one be considered to have achieved physical immortality even if the universe we live within isn't physically immortal itself?
Heh, actually, it probably wouldn't matter anyway if all form was wiped out in a single moment.
As for the afterlife, could immortality be considered an appropriate term to describe the state of not having a physical form, but still existing? Doesn't the word immortal imply there is a time and space in which to be considered immortal? even though the afterlife is more often that not considered a state of formlessness(neither time or space)?
Okay, that felt like a complete tangent. And I'm not sure if it all made sense. I actually disagree with some of my own perspectives here, but not entirely sure why!:P Might as well take that as a positive sign, such as "seeing the limits of my own thinking" or perspective etc. |
Yea, as ZHereford also stated, those damn risks are always there. I hope this analogy of what you said fits right: It's like driving a car, one can be as cautious as one can, and never suffer an accident in one's whole life because he is SO cautious, but if he drove for many lifetimes, eventually he would get hit by a car with a drunk driver or something like that, and the accident would be eventually fatal. That's definitely true, since in the infinite even a 0.000...1% chance would happen.
In the present, of course the risk of fatal accidents happening is MUCH bigger than 0.000...1%. Thats why i said previously, i can only expect to live long enough to see the technological boom thats going to happen soon (in some decades).
But the rate of technological advancement advances in inverse proportionality to the risk of accidents, so i believe there will come a time when technology will advance so fast that the risks of accidents will get lower and lower straight (and faster than the risks of dying in an accident) to the point of the infinite. This way i won't get caught by the chance, because i will be some steps in front of it.
Enough said, if my miraculous fail (although very possible), i will then hope that my spirit will still exist after my death
To illustrate more clearly my concept of the future of mankind, theres this article on kurzweilai.net, where you can pick a better detailed idea of the future by ray kurzweil. Then scroll down to the 11th article (from above to the bottom) named "Reinventing Humanity"
KurzweilAI.net