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wolfgang · 05-04-2007, 05:45 PM

I think some people come to believe something that is very subjective for them. They are able to believe it because of some kind of experience they've had.

Christians have a conversion event when they feel the holy spirit come into their hearts. Or is it Jesus not the holy spirit? Anyway, they believe in Jesus because of some feeling that they know, for sure, that they are living with Jesus. It's a subjective experience that can not be shown to anybody or expalined to the point someone else will believe it.

I don't understand faith. It seems to be a way to believe something one has not had a direct experience of. The leap of faith is wanting to believe something because it makes enough sense to. Or one is interested in some way of bettering their life/feeling/experience and thinks believing so and so will help. To me, that's sort of like trying out a belief and operating under the influence of what it means to believe that, and seeing if it's useful.

Then, I wonder, what beliefs are useful anyway? I mean, at some level all beliefs are temporary views/explainations of what we are experiencing.

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wolfgang Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,085	I think some people come to believe something that is very subjective for them. They are able to believe it because of some kind of experience they've had. Christians have a conversion event when they feel the holy spirit come into their hearts. Or is it Jesus not the holy spirit? Anyway, they believe in Jesus because of some feeling that they know, for sure, that they are living with Jesus. It's a subjective experience that can not be shown to anybody or expalined to the point someone else will believe it. I don't understand faith. It seems to be a way to believe something one has not had a direct experience of. The leap of faith is wanting to believe something because it makes enough sense to. Or one is interested in some way of bettering their life/feeling/experience and thinks believing so and so will help. To me, that's sort of like trying out a belief and operating under the influence of what it means to believe that, and seeing if it's useful. Then, I wonder, what beliefs are useful anyway? I mean, at some level all beliefs are temporary views/explainations of what we are experiencing.