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Originally Posted by OlderWiser  Personally, I think the "I don't believe anything that can't be proven" attitude is just as limiting as "I believe anything that drifts over my transom". Not accusing anyone here of either of those, by the way. I'm just making an observation in general. |
Beautiful point, OlderWiser.
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Originally Posted by nosussbeliefs Arent you interested in truth? |
I'm endlessly interested in Truth.
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Originally Posted by nosussbeliefs Don't you think a lot of harm is being done in this world due to ignorance? Belief does cause a lot of contentment in this world, but it's also resposnible for a lot of disaster. |
Ignorance and belief are not the same things. Atheism is a belief. (The belief that there is no God.) Just because there are so many more people on earth who believe in some sort of Higher Power, does that mean people who do
not believe there is an HP are ignorant? I don't think so. Not at all. They simply choose to see life through a different lens.
Further, sharing our beliefs and experiences (even in the Flying Spaghetti Monster - lol, OW) in
no way spreads ignorance. They are just our beliefs and experiences. Ignorance is the
lack of information, knowledge, or education.
Anyone who reads about my personal experiences is more than free (encouraged, even!) to go out and check other sources or try things themselves. Nobody here has been trying to convince the world of what they've experienced. For my part, I am simply interested in meeting others who might have had similar experiences so I can compare notes.
Honestly, nosussbeliefs, the only people in this thread who have tried to convince anyone of anything have been people with skeptical outlooks.
I will say this. I am refreshed and pleased to see you offering up actual arguments and ideas. Your POV is foreign (and therefore interesting) to my own, and I appreciate it. It's been a long time since I believed anything resembling atheism, and I value the contrast. It gives me food for thought, and I believe, brings me that much closer to Truth.
I look forward to hearing more of these well-thought-out ideas from you. How about we start another thread in this part of the forum to specifically discuss the ideas of belief and disbelief as they relate to one another? (In fact,
here.) In the process, we can allow this thread to discuss its original topic.
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Originally Posted by wolfgang I wish I could say I bursted another cloud, but I haven't tried. Now I'm scared I'm going to be subject to a which hunt. Amazing how lost a thread can get. Lots of threads decompose into belief issues it seems. Who is which hunting who, by the way? Skeptics throwing up science, at people wanting to believe the could disappeared when we choose it, are which hunting right in this thread. |
Nobody's being burned at the stake here. Regardless of what anybody, anywhere does or thinks, there will always be people with a different opinion about it. That variety is part of the beauty of this existence. I hope you will choose to take it as such and live your life by your own barometer.