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Old 05-01-2007, 09:57 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Yes, as strong a connection as there is between dimples and beauty
No, you showed that when green is present, then there is nausea, and inversely, that when green is not present then nausea is not present. That's a connection. Also called a correlation. And, since in your hypothetical scenario, there were only negligible external factors, the correlation was a causation.

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I thought your opinion was that beauty just is, that it exists separate from the observer.
*muses* I won't say that it isn't, because I happen to like the idea of absolute beauty...

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Maybe we can't define beauty itself, but perhaps one could define what one considers beautiful.
Just so. It's a matter of personal taste, undefinable. If beauty itself is different to individual people, then it is no different from taste. Some people like fat women, other people like skinny women. You cannot define women according to this.

If there is a pseudo-algorithmic way of taking any given person and defining what is beautiful to that person, then beauty can be abstracted from those individuals into a concept unto itself.

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In the case of another person, perhaps. But we mix it up with objects, music, scenery. I rarely say that I love snow capped mountains. But I guess it's true.
Now you understand Assertion 1.
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