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Old 04-27-2007, 03:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
Michael Tipper
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Default Your Daugher is Normal, Comprehension does not equal memory...

Hi,

I have just joined the forum and came across your post about your 11 year old daughter and the challenge you face about memory and reading comprehension. I notice that you made the post a few weeks ago now and so I hope I am not too late to offer you some advice.

I teach both memory improvement and speed reading to adults and occasionally to children and one of the biggest complaints I hear is "I can't remember what I have read". Understandably, people will naturally assume that because they can't recall what they have read then it must be because of a fault with their memory.

This is because they have made the common mistake of equating comprehension with memory. Here is the point (and excuse me for writing in capitals but it is a really important point :-))

COMPREHENSION DOES NOT EQUAL MEMORY

Here is what most people expect from the reading process:

Look at words - recognise words - comprehend/understand words - remember words - recall the words - communicate the words to themselves or others

Of course when they can't get tell someone what they have read they assume that the remember words and the stages that follow are at fault and so there must be a problem with the memory. (just like your daughter could not recall what she had read the day before)

So our expectations of our reading ability seem to go beyond what we are actually able to do in most instances - well that is because when we "read" based on the way most of us have been taught, all we are doing is getting to the "comprehend/understand" stage. We can't remember what we have read a few days later because we have not MEMORISED it (again please excuse the capitals, I only use them for emphasis of the point). In order to fully remember what we have read we actually have to perform a memorisation action.

Of course there will be some things that stick in our mind but if you are reading something and you want to remember it, you have to take an extra step.

When it comes to your daughter and her answer "it is a bill about rights" well that is exactly the sort of answer I would expect given the circumstances you have described. She has given a completely normal response for an 11 year old who has been through the Bill of Rights the day before and only read it, not memorised the main points.

There could be other factors involved here too such as just how interesting is the bill of rights to an 11 year old (I stress interesting and not important because it can be one without the other), and learning preferences, time of day, state etc but I think you will find that what you experienced here is completely normal and you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Assuming you are not legally trained, try this out for yourself - get a legal document, maybe a contract, read it over a couple of times and then explain the complete detail to your husband in a couple of days - you will probably get the same result (and we might have an 11 year old making posts on the site wanting help for her mother's memory problem :-))

If you still want help with memory improvement, there are a ton of resources online if you just search "memory improvement". Good authors are people like Tony Buzan (who I have worked with and can vouch for his stuff personally), Dominic O'brien (who I competed against and know personally), Harry Lorayne, Kevin Trudeau (who both have their products and books sitting on my shelf and are highly recommended). I am still new to this forum and so will refrain from mentioning my own for now (can I get away with saying that my next memory book out in the US and UK in May - hope so :-)).

When it comes to your daughter I would highly recommend Mind Mapping which in my opinion is the most powerfulest thinking tool ever devised. I won't go into detail in this post but you had you created a Mind Map alongside reading the Bill of RIghts, you would have found your daughter's recall much higher (Again, check out Tony Buzan who invented this powerful tool).

I hope that helps and good luck with the homeschooling.

Michael

Last edited by Michael Tipper; 04-28-2007 at 12:37 PM.
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