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Old 04-25-2007, 04:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SecretSeven View Post
Time does exist. Atleast in the world it does. Look at the cycle of the moon, the sun,and our very own bodies. The whole world is one giant clock. Maybe time doesn't exist in some other Universe, but there is no denying it in this one.
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The cycle of the moon , the sun, and our very own bodies don't indicate the presence of time. They are just motions and changes in position. The whole world isn't a giant clock, it's just the whole world. Time is like an inch. They are both used for measurement, but they don't actually exist. Hand me an inch or a unit of time. If you got rid of all the clocks and removed the idea of time from people's minds, where would time be?

Even a sun dial is just a measurement of the position of the sun relative to the earth. It is our thinking that relates that to time. Before there were clocks the conversation went something like this: "Meet me at the apple tree when the moon rises over the top ridge of the mountain." Where is time there? It is positions of physical bodies. Then when man invented the concept of time, he said, "When the moon rises over the top ridge of the mounatin, it is 10 pm".

Five years doesn't pass. The earth rotates around the sun five times. No time necessary. But we call each cycle a year. We could have just as easily called 5 cycles a year. It's all conceptually based and non-existent.

If you want to use aging as an example - we don't age. Our bodies just change. It has nothing to do with time because it happens in the Now.

An example I like to use is there is a disease that inflicts a number of children. Children with a certain disease called Hutchinson-Gilford Progeria syndrome(Progeria) go through physical changes that resemble greatly accelerated aging. So what do you make of that? Is the time passing at an accelerated rate and causing their body to age? No. Their bodies are changing in the Now just like yours and mine is.

The problem is we are so conditioned to make everything time-based that we have a hard time removing ourselves from the concept to see what is really going on. If it is always now, and the now has no beginning and no end, where does that leave room for time?

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