View Single Post
Old 04-24-2007, 05:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
Gary
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 101
Gary is on a distinguished road
Default Endless Clarifications for the Reason about the Unknowable

Quote:
Is this the same thing that Eckhart Tolle writes about? Being the watcher - behind the ego. The ego is the parasite which can be "killed".
Learning and practicing to be the watcher is part of the preparation. The more preparation, the smoother is the Initiation of Death.

I don't recall how Tolle relates the pain body to the Ego mind so perhaps they are the same to him. I see the pain body as equivalent to the parasite. You are the Watcher, Observer, or what we can call consciousness.

It can't be translated into words, but using the crude form of words as best I can,

In the initiation your pain body is wiped away. Clean. That includes your ego mind. The more of this that is done before hand the easier.

You as the conscious observer remain. And then You, merge with the Infinite. That merging with the Infinite creates a conscious expansion. There is a death of who you used to be. A birth of a whole new level of consciousness in You.

From this state of consciousness you create continue to create. But his time you create an Ally instead of a parasite or pain body.

By Ally, you could say that your mind, thoughts, and emotions operate on your behalf instead of against you. Your are based in Love and create pleasure instead of fear that would create pain.

Quote:
You don't kill it, because it's a manifestation of consciousness, you merely choose for it to no longer be.
I don't know what Max is writing about here. I suspect that he hasn't been through the experience, or led anyone through it.

There is a killing. Understanding that death is more a transformation of energy and matter as anything else. (Like the body dies and turns into dust and ashes, feeds the earth, and gives life.)

The type of experience that I am describing takes a great deal of Intent and Personal Power. Very few will come by this on their own. The easy way is to have a spiritual guide. This is one of the benefits of working with a Spiritual Teacher, provided they are clean, and have a strong connecting link to Intent. I was very fortunate to have don Miguel as my benefactor in this regard.

This idea that
Quote:
you merely choose for it to no longer be
implies a passive event. It isn't. The kind of transformation involved in the Initiation of Death is an active conscious act of power. It is easiest, and most possible when guided through the process by someone who has received the initiation.

Dissolving the ego and parasite is one step. Merging with the Infinite is another.

We should note that one doesn't have to go this route in order to live a happy and spiritually fulfilling life. There are many paths.

Blessings,

Gary

Last edited by Gary; 04-24-2007 at 08:54 PM.
Gary is offline   Reply With Quote