[themaster]

Originally Posted by John Freestone

One of the main reasons I came back, and one of the reasons I responded earlier in the post that got me banned, is that it's hard to just put someone on ignore and hope that they've stopped writing insults, and it's my right to keep making clear that I reject your interpretations and take exception to your repeated posting of what I consider lies about me. I hope you understand that in certain situations this can lead you into legal trouble. You can't just keep saying bad things about people, even if you also say that you believe they're a good person in the next breath.

John, I understand how reality works so yes..

But you once again you "miss-understand" who I am.. and why I post.. if you did not come back or make a single post again.. I would not follow-up with taunts..

It's clear violation of forum rules to insult people.. and that's not what I'm here to do.. Even if the rules didn't exist! I just wouldn't do it.. there's no gain in insulting people or being negative..

It's just throwing your own problems around.. which is what I'm trying to say about you and the text in this thread..

Once again.. my repeating mantra.. "I want to talk about how you feel.. and why you feel this way.." and it's fair game if you want to talk about how I feel and why I feel this way..

Originally Posted by John Freestone

However, I noticed that I was wrong when I said that you probably didn't ask for me to be un-banned, if what you say is true (and, oddly, I believe you). The trouble is, I don't think you genuinely wanted me to be reinstated for my benefit. I believe you wanted to reinstate me so you could continue your patronising healing project on me - the above posts are evidence of that.

John, read this statement carefully.. you have a very suspicious mind and very suspicious nature..

And you have me painted in a negative light.. all in this quote..

It is not so.. I wanted to continue talking with you.. because it's a good learning experience for me and you.. and others..

If you again don't have the stomach.. don't want to be put somewhat on the defensive.. to answer questions like "why do you feel this way"?

And "why do you believe this?".. then talking with me.. is not for you..

Originally Posted by John Freestone

But I have to accept that I can't control what people say about me, and may just have to put you on ignore, or just leave, and leave you to your imaginary healing of my terrible pain.

John if I just smile once a day and you smile once a year.. that's pain if you ask me..

Originally Posted by John Freestone

Have you noticed that all of this is completely off topic? The purpose of the thread was to discuss the validity of the LoA. ALG and the OP both expressed that to me for very minor diversions. It's odd, there seems to be an automatic assumption that "personal development" will trump any subject matter.

John, we are very off topic.. and yet were "on topic"

To me LOA is us.. it's made out of us.. it is us..

So the name of this thread is..

"Are we real?" lol
"Do we exist?"
"Are we valid in existence?"

I don't mind turning the topic back to LOA.. fine by me.. but to do so.. we have to hear what you know about LOA.. what have you tried.. what happened in your past.. with "new age"?

I told you in this thread.. I talk about everything.. because I believe everything is related!

And I've told that to "Melchior" too.. he just says I don't believe in "oneness" no rhyme, no explanation.. nothing..

Originally Posted by John Freestone

\While I utterly reject your view of me as negative, etc., I am concerned about my presence here, and my purpose, because it is and has always been to challenge the LoA. I'm not sure if it's worth it, because I don't have evidence that that has had an effect on anyone of the kind I intend, which is to encourage them to doubt. Many see doubt and scepticism as "negative", when they are virtues, although I've never met anyone quite so entrenched in that view as you.

When do virtues become vices?

Simple question isn't it.. yet.. look how it paints your post and words..

John, I believe we should all be free to live, love and be happy.. to me LOA is part in parcel with happiness.. because without it.. we all believe "we can't have what we want"

To learn LOA is to learn "you can have what you want"

So it's no wonder that because you post that it's not possible..that I can easily reflect your not happy.. cause I think at least deep down you'd like to admit that if it was real.. you'd use it.. and you'd love it.. and it would make your life better

Originally Posted by John Freestone

It is maybe impossible for us to talk to each other in any helpful manner, because our basic assumptions are completely different. You keep checking if you're feeling good, and if you are, the current idea in your head must be true. The argument about how sad I am was to reinforce the idea that my philosophy is wrong, when, in my philosophy, emotional tone and intellectual validity are separate. My commitment is to truth, above happiness (though, as it happens, I'm happy and positive, and part of that comes from having such valuable knowledge since I stopped thinking the way you do).

John, I believe that if we explore each other through text.. it's possible to get to a common viewpoint and denominator?

Do you wish to do this.. or do you wish to back off? Just leave it..

The choice is yours.. I'm here for debate/discussion for now.. if you want too

I think your as happy as a EGO can get.. John (been there, done that) but I bet you we could make you smile more.. if you came for a walk with me?

Originally Posted by John Freestone

One of the basic teachings in the kind of therapy I did is that it should only be done with people who are fully informed about what it is and want it from me. Please try to stop doing therapy without training or the consent of your subjects. If I want therapy, I'll go find a therapist. I'll choose one who listens and doesn't start from the position that I'm negative and need fixing. As it happens, I have a supportive, loving partner, and she happens to be a fully-trained therapist as well. It's one of the biggest reasons I'm such a happy positive person.

For now, it wouldn't be fair for me to post all that and ask you not to respond. I'm patient, but I just wanted you to know that I'm very close to the end of this.

As you wish.. John

Originally Posted by John Freestone

BTW, you didn't "scare" me (yet more of your fantasies) telling me I was ready to die. I'm not that susceptible to suggestion. I have a rational world view, and that makes me much less susceptible to other people's beilefs, ideas, curses, etc.

No, John.. I think I did.. (the proof is in your rebuttal)

People kind of know when there "dying" inside.. they won't always admit it.. but they kind of know..

As I told you how you feel when you wake up in the morning is a great sign of how much longer you're going to be here.. I wake up and go "wow.. this is exciting.. I'm happy.. I can't wait to do this" now this isn't full on parcel for the truth.. but it's close..

I am not trying to be mean.. by giving you information.. you probably already know somewhat consciously.. I am trying to give you the key to happiness, ease and love (and I'm sure as you say.. your experiencing those things.. but how about more??? What's wrong with more of that? )

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Summation:

John, I understand again that you say you have your life together.. I want to offer that your reactions and emotions in this thread.. and even your insults (which you may admit) are evidence to me that you do and do not have your life together.. if you would like to discuss ideas and information on being happier.. this is what I really wish to discuss with you.. this includes ideas like LOA