[themaster]

Then I have too "validate" your truth.. I'm not here to call you a liar.. I automatically validate your truth..

So, I repeat again.. John.. I don't wish to convert you to the LOA

But I do wish to discuss personally your feelings on the LOA and my feelings on the LOA.. I wish to have a personal discussion without being personal.. (this is one of my many double sided coin statements as you can see.. you see I believe there is way to see things from both perspectives )

(back to keeping it short )

Originally Posted by John Freestone

I have now been pointing this behaviour out, and telling you of its negative effect on me, for quite some time, and you seem unable to stop. You would be continuing to hurt me, but I have learned to skim lightly over your text and I'm kind of hardened to your insults. I don't know whether you are still just not seeing how condescending, patronising and insensitive you're being, puffed up on your own philosophy of superior vision of others' personalities, or if you're just deliberately refusing to stop.

John, I'm going to say it straight here.. "quit playing the victim"

You're not a victim john.. I'm just observing and reflecting what your "sending out!"

If you can't take the truth about yourself! Once again.. we can just stop talking.. how many times do I have to tell you.. I am not personally invested in "making you feel bad" I'm here to ask you why do you "feel bad"? (even the moderator asked you that below..)

Why do you feel bad john?

Why do you care what someone on some "forum" says about you?

I don't.. you can start another thread.. and call me every name or insult in the book.. or come to my house or start a facebook page.. you can say every negative thing about me you want.. and I still won't care!

John, all these writings as of now.. are on the "defensive".. what do you have to defend??

What is it.. honor, integrity, your right, I'm wrong??

What exactly are you defending..?? if I wanted to call you names.. I wouldn't have to write out thousands of characters.. I could get that done in about 2 paragraphs, right?

That's not what I want.. I want to have discussion about you.. and yet it's personal and it's not!

I want to ask you.. why you feel defensive? What's the reason.. really for this post?

I want to ask why you don't have a open perspective.. why you haven't tried a LOA experiment of manifesting a parking space?

I want to ask you what happened to you?

And would really like you to complete that story.. because I think there's growth for you and me.. in talking about it..

I think..

every conversation is a learning experience!

A growth experience!

If you share my viewpoints.. then this mean this conversation is helpful to you and me.. do you share my viewpoints? or would you like to disengage?

It's up to you..

Originally Posted by John Freestone

You, who didn't learn much at school, preach your scientifically unsupported psychology at me as if you were teaching me about myself, a person who has
a) been through much of the unsupported belief system you're in, for decades, very deeply, reading lots of material and practising lots of meditation - from late teens to mid-40s
b) has a decade or so on you of life experience in general
c) has an advanced diploma in therapeutic counselling
d) has a decade's experience of practising therapy for a living
e) has written many articles and contributed to published books on therapy
f) has done several years' worth of intense personal-growth work in groups
g) has run several therapeutic groupss
and
i) doesn't give a fig for your immature philosophy and pop psychology, and has made that clear several times!
[Edited to add: and q) doesn't know his alphabet]

And what has all this gotten you, John?

Do you have a degree in happiness?

How about "tranquility"?

Do you feel at "ease" in your life?

John there are 6 billion people on the planet okay? And very rarely do you ever see any of them smile?

Now what's wrong with that picture?

Why are people not happy, john? You've got all this life experience.. share with me.. what you think..?

Originally Posted by John Freestone

Several others have been telling you this recently, and you have been behaving towards them in similar ways, so it's hard even to explain this as your reaction to a non-believer (although maybe it's stronger towards me). I noticed you said to Angela, "I'm sorry... now, does that make you feel better?". Any idea what that says about you? I noticed that several people seem to have got to an impasse with you and asked you to simply stop talking about them or to them. It's time I did the same.

John, I told you.. I listen to what people say to me.. but I have my right to choose to agree with it.. or not.. (just as you do..)

I can't go into details of Angela and me.. cause I said I would not do that.. however there remains to be seen a problem.. and it will no doubt resurface in her awareness and mine again.. so until the next time..