[Melchior]

Originally Posted by themaster

Ohh.. I realize in any thread with someone this "negative" that's how you get answers.. but you see I don't mean it..

Melchior.. I call people out on their stuff.. that sometimes means it looks like a insult etc.

Why not phrase it so that it doesn't get taken as an insult then? Or does it feel better (based off of your emotional guidance system) to write as though you were insulting someone?

One can actually see in this thread that John is afraid of the mods.. as was actually rockchick.. a forum where people are afraid to speak their minds..?? sounds a lot like society (yes, that's a joke..)

(for the record if I didn't know how you all "think" I wouldn't go out of my way to label some jokes.. jokes.. just to be on the safe side.. sometimes when I'm joking you all think I'm not)

Then let me tell you this: your jokes are negative in their effect, even if you label them as a joke.

I always give a honest reply.. if this does not satisfy you.. ask again..

Yep, that happens..

Yah, know your about the 3rd or 4th peer to say that.. (and yes, James your answer was cool with me.. here's a acknowledgement of that)

But that is a disagreement in judgment.. you see I think it's working just fine..

That was a joke.. actually I know I help a lot of people.. but they rarely say it

If you're thinking that it's working just fine despite the fact that the people that it supposedly is working for tell you that it isn't working just fine, then I think you're in denial about the viability of your methods.

But the honest thing is there not angry with me.. there angry with themselves..

How are you so sure? Did you ask? And where would this anger come from if it weren't from you purposely provoking it?

It's a perfectly valid question.. Melchior.. how happy are you? You seem balanced and stable recently but in this thread you deny my theory of "oneness" and how did that feel?

Not happy when conversing with you, that is for sure. I actually have to take a while before I first read your post and respond so that I have time to get past the irritation. Yes, your words are irritating and unclear and negative and judgmental. And if those words are your honest reply, then even if you deny them to be that way, I don't have any other conclusion about them to reach. The conclusion is, that you are in denial of what you are doing. And presently, I have no way of getting through to you. Like I said in earlier posts, that is something that you're going to have to change for yourself. The pattern I see, and the one that you even acknowledge points to this conclusion, yet you deny it while I accept it. Perhaps its time for you to look at your own projections.

As for denying "oneness", I didn't feel anything much really, because I know that "oneness" isn't how the world is. "Oneness" can actually be brought under the term of "nondualism", but "nondualism" can only be brought under itself. Just as I can contrast "oneness" with "nonthingness", a dualism, the only way to contrast "nondualism" is with "nondualism" because to contrast it with "dualism" would go against the whole idea of "nondualism". Perhaps you will be able to learn this. On a side note, I also like the idea of nondualism more than oneness because it allows for separation and connectedness as is appropriate.

Nope and yes.. do you understand that we our non-physical beings/even angels.. laugh at us down here.. when we get a mortgage bill and say how can I pay this??

They find that funny.. now there not laughing at the misery of the person in it.. there laughing at US creators gods believing we can't create and have to pay a mortgage bill which is the easiest thing in the world for us to do.. but we just don't believe we can..

Making excuses of others doing it doesn't make it okay for you to as well.

I don't like mean laughs Melchior and I try and refrain from them.. my posts are filled with all sorts of jokes.. just to make them entertaining to write and read.. I know you may want to be all serious.. I do not.. necessarily

Some jokes are fine, jokes about the negativity of the other person in a judgmental matter are not. You who goes on and on about judgment should know this, but it appears as though you do not, or do not care, or care to change it, or want to change it either, because apparently it makes you feel good based off of your emotional guidance system. And yet you deny it.

Nope, it's why I asked John to come back.. I don't approve of banning because I believe it "inhibits" our spiritual growth.. we need to be able to talk about "anything" and while this forum may not wish to allow that.. at some point it either has to change.. or I have to go somewhere else anyway (cause maybe I won't want to talk about "anything" anymore)

Now, this change may take 5-20 years.. or it may never happen.. I don't know.. but I'll stop giving steve the POWER and remind myself.. I have the POWER..

How do you address a problem without a addressing a problem..??

In your case, it may never happen. Not until you get past your apparent denial at any rate. Here, let me help you on this: accept that you're in denial. That's how to address the problem, you have to actually have an addressing of it first. As long as you believe that there is no problem about yourself, as obvious as it is to those around you, nothing will get done about the problem because for you it doesn't exist. Or perhaps more accurately, the problem exists as the other person's problem, the person pointing it out has the problem because that's the only place the problem could occur for you. Certainly not yourself, but that's only because of your denial of your denial. It's your responsibility to do something about it. How does taking responsibility for yourself feel? If your emotional guidance system tells you that you don't want it, that it doesn't feel good, maybe you should take it into the shop for repairs.

Regarding John's comment on the off-topicness of this discussion, if you feel that you wish to continue, make a new thread, or if you decide to post here more, I will create a new thread for you, but I will not promise to reply to it. I've replied enough here to convince you if you really cared to change, if it so happens to be the case.