[themaster]

Originally Posted by John Freestone

(both by expecting it, and by "calling people out on their stuff" in rather unhelpful ways)? Maybe you live in a really bad neighbourhood. Maybe you suffered a lot of anger and violence against you in the past. I don't know, I'm just flagging it up for you, calling you out on your (possible) stuff. It's your stuff, so it's yours to decide whether I'm on to something. Unlike you, if you say not, I'll accept that. I don't even care if you say anything more about it. Your forcing people to do their stuff seems to consist of badgering them - you even said you say things to get a rise out of me.

John.. this is how it works all right?

I'll try and explain this concept to you neutrally.. hopefully you'll understand..

Let's say there's a thread and it's called "how to understand child molesters?" (this is the actual name of a thread)

So how this thread goes down is like.. anyone who has issues with child molesters will say the following

"there evil"
"There not me"
"I hate them"
"they are unequal to us"

And I tend to talk (in these more negative threads) to those that have issues.. and I tend to try to explain how to "understand" them..

You see I think these comments above are problems that people have with themselves.. just as I think anywhere you shouted a insult or were really negative.. is a problem you have with yourself..

So I try and explain a way to see it.. where there would be less RESISTANCE..

I try and give them a more "open" viewpoint (do your remember this word "open" from our conversations? )

What I'm saying john is.. the WORLD is PERFECT.. but the reason why people won't call it perfect is cause they have problems with themselves.. and when they don't UNDERSTAND those problems.. they project them!

Do you remember that word "project" from our conversations?

So that's what I'm saying john.. is I participate in this conversations to change and offer different viewpoints that are least resistant and open to more positive viewpoints.. I simply say "let go of your problems" "let go of your baggage" there is no wrong way to be!

And that's every judgment conversation I've ever had in a nutshell!

You would think I would tire of writing 2000+ word posts and re-translating that same message over and over again.. but as you see I'm resilient.. (I don't mind poking fun at myself)

I'm like the borg.. you can't assimilate me..!

Does that explain it?

Originally Posted by John Freestone

Possibly...or they're not angry at all...or perhaps they weren't but your negativity and anger is making them angry...which is your anger at yourself.

John, everyone is angry all right?

Let me explain why.. cause this is a good answer also (did I mention I like your questions? And answering them.. well I do! )

John, let's pretend were on the playground all right?

Now there's me skipping along on hopscotch.. smiling at people.. going around and saying "I love you" to anyone and anything.. I offer a flower to daisy, just to make her smile..

And then there's you.. and your over in the sandbox.. and you see me.. and your pissed! Cause you want what I have.. you want to skip and play and offer a flower.. but you've been beaten to the punch.. your jealous!

And so you kick the sand..

This is analogy for our entire conversations John!

I know, I know.. it seems unfair for you to be the one in the sandbox kicking the sand.. but that's just HOW I see it!

John, I try and act as a "permission slip" to be happy.. to let go.. to start playing hopscotch, and giving your own flower to "daisy" and everything else.. that's what I'm trying to do.. sure we label this a "Adult" game.. but it's actually just a form of a childhood game.. played with super complex Adult rules and methods.. and denials!