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cedc · 11-09-2006, 01:33 AM

I like your response kafaria. Your experience has benefited you well. Some of the things you say though, seem misplaced. By that I mean that some of your thoughts seem at odds with each other. Why do you think we have to fight to make our lives count? How can a life, any life, not be worthwhile? For what it's worth, here are my thoughts.

There has always been much talk about finding one's purpose in life and people come up with all sorts of different purposes, all very righteous. This is all fine but looking for such purposes, regardless of the motivation, is objective not subjective. In a subjective reality there is only one purpose: to experience our own creation with full awareness. We can do this any way we wish, be it saving the world, finding a cure for cancer or getting drunk and frequenting brothels. In other words it's not what you do but how you do it. True success comes from how much awareness you bring to your life.

As for the law of attraction, that too stems from an objective point of view. From a subjective point of view it should be called the law of creation. The difference being this: the law of attraction has an undertone of attracting something from outside of yourself while the law of creation deals with creating something from within. The law of attraction allows it's followers to shed a little of the responsibility onto events occurring outside of themselves. The law of creation says that nothing can be without you so everything just is and everything is you. Not even so much as a thin layer separates me from you.

So what of awakening? What is it that we are seeking to wake from? Awakening, I dare say, has different interpretations. In my experience most people use the term to mean finding one's perceived life's purpose. In other words they want to wake from their perceived mundane lives. But there are others who see awakening as waking up from a dream. A realization comes to them that they are in fact the creator (and not the ego) of their life and that everything is exactly as it should be. At first it's just an academic understanding which helps build up their awareness and as their awareness grows their understanding deepens. Then they wake up and see reality for the game that it is. After awakening all things remain the same yet everything is different. At this point they choose to either stay in the game or leave it and at this point leaving is easy but to stay they need to retain some attachment to something (without attachments or desires, it is not possible to stay in the game).

Many people suffer because they feel their lives have been wasted or that they have not found their purpose. The reality is that no life is wasted and every life counts because all life and all things are created with intent (including the perceived suffering).

I feel I've babbled on for too long and I am not sure if any of this is useful to you. In any case I wish you well and as I said in my previous post I trust that you will reach your own awakening, there is no other alternative, we all get there sooner or later.

11-09-2006, 01:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
cedc Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14	I like your response kafaria. Your experience has benefited you well. Some of the things you say though, seem misplaced. By that I mean that some of your thoughts seem at odds with each other. Why do you think we have to fight to make our lives count? How can a life, any life, not be worthwhile? For what it's worth, here are my thoughts. There has always been much talk about finding one's purpose in life and people come up with all sorts of different purposes, all very righteous. This is all fine but looking for such purposes, regardless of the motivation, is objective not subjective. In a subjective reality there is only one purpose: to experience our own creation with full awareness. We can do this any way we wish, be it saving the world, finding a cure for cancer or getting drunk and frequenting brothels. In other words it's not what you do but how you do it. True success comes from how much awareness you bring to your life. As for the law of attraction, that too stems from an objective point of view. From a subjective point of view it should be called the law of creation. The difference being this: the law of attraction has an undertone of attracting something from outside of yourself while the law of creation deals with creating something from within. The law of attraction allows it's followers to shed a little of the responsibility onto events occurring outside of themselves. The law of creation says that nothing can be without you so everything just is and everything is you. Not even so much as a thin layer separates me from you. So what of awakening? What is it that we are seeking to wake from? Awakening, I dare say, has different interpretations. In my experience most people use the term to mean finding one's perceived life's purpose. In other words they want to wake from their perceived mundane lives. But there are others who see awakening as waking up from a dream. A realization comes to them that they are in fact the creator (and not the ego) of their life and that everything is exactly as it should be. At first it's just an academic understanding which helps build up their awareness and as their awareness grows their understanding deepens. Then they wake up and see reality for the game that it is. After awakening all things remain the same yet everything is different. At this point they choose to either stay in the game or leave it and at this point leaving is easy but to stay they need to retain some attachment to something (without attachments or desires, it is not possible to stay in the game). Many people suffer because they feel their lives have been wasted or that they have not found their purpose. The reality is that no life is wasted and every life counts because all life and all things are created with intent (including the perceived suffering). I feel I've babbled on for too long and I am not sure if any of this is useful to you. In any case I wish you well and as I said in my previous post I trust that you will reach your own awakening, there is no other alternative, we all get there sooner or later.