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Old 04-15-2007, 01:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
ArthurHung
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I've never researched Buddha or Jesus in-depth, only having read about them from indirect sources, so I was just using that example from my base of general knowledge--which, apparently was lacking. I haven't really read too much specifically about enlightenment so I have a very subjective view of what that is; I consider no fear or unconditional love something different, something that can be achieved at the level of acceptance based on the levels of consciousness list on Steve's site--I would be more than happy to hear a differing opinion on this. No fear/Unconditional love is but a fundamental belief from Steve's latest podcast--I was using that definition. I'm definitely not claiming that I've achieved from Hawkin's list "The highest level of human consciousness, where humanity blends with divinity".

The person who wrote the Tao Te Ching would fit my description of enlightenment, though I feel that is something different from no fear/ unconditional love--which again, I think can be achieved by someone with a lower level of consciousness. To my knowledge he didn't have a relationship.

Isn't attachment to any form of feeling a step back from enlightenment? Therefore I would argue that if Buddha had a relationship, at that time, he wasn't enlightened.
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