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Originally Posted by Theo77  Yossarian,
Its not mincing words. You have this idea that to be a darkworker you have to be a serial killer.
If that is kind of a cartoonish model then perhaps a more explicit model would be better?
So to try and make it more explicit that is mincing words? |
The word-mince is when we lose the meaning of English words by redefining them. My argument is that, in English, being selfless includes being selfless because you enjoy being seflless.
So therefore when someone says that being selfless is selfish, that is mincing words because they are changing the definitions. According to the definitions, selfless and selfish are opposites. If you change the language you make it hard to communicate.
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Here is an example: Boundary issues. Have you heard that term before? You know how some people have boundary issues?
Often cult leaders have boundary issues, at the same time as preaching oneness and selflessness. So then they take liberties with all these selfless people.
Here is another term. "Negation" as in negating people. Often narcissists and sociopaths do things to negate other people. They do things to make other people feel as though they don't count. They do things to make people doubt themselves.
What is a good way to counteract these negative things?
Its by asserting yourself and your individuality. Its by being self reliant.
To me helping others is about helping people empower themselves. Assert themselves, be independant, express ther individuality.
If getting rid of the ego and being selfless is the end all be all then wouldn't it be god to let everyone walk all over you? Violate your bundaries and negate you?
Wouldn't that be doing people a big favor by helping them to see that their separateness is an illusion?
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I agree with you, however I also detect that you intended to say these things as a counter-argument to something I said. I fail to see what these are a counter-argument for. I agree with you 100% and your post does not seem to contradict my post.
Helping people to assert their individuality so they can free themselves from the grip of opression is like my #1 goal in this world. Seriously. This is also why I tend to spend a lot of thought on the nature of good and evil, because what it comes down to is that the "evil" prey on the weak, and so personally I want to help the weak to transcend this predation. IMO there is an effective way to go about it, and there are many ineffective ways, and there are also ways that do more harm than good. So people interested in this kind of thing would do well to analyze approaches and also analyze the nature of good and evil. Most of the people that society considers "evil" are themselves just the weak, being oppressed by the true evil, who are powerful.
Petty criminals are the weak, inmates are the weak, serial killers are the weak. In my opinion it's not fair to call them darkworkers or lightworkers - they are the unpolarized masses.
Evil is something powerful, something polarized, something effective, and something that is mostly invisible because it chooses to be invisible.
By saying this stuff I don't intend to contradict you, I'm just trying to show how I view the world, since it seems i'm misunderstood.