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Originally Posted by Nelson  However, I am asking you straight up on your belief: If someone kills, hurts or steals from another person for their own gain (as in: "not" executioners, police etc.) should they be punished? Isn't that evil in all (or almost all) societies? I have a basic understandign of many religions and cultures so I think it's safe to say that very few cultures condone such behavior. Is that just a coincidence? |
*grin* Is a soldier, policeman, executener not hurting for personal gain? They do this job to earn a living, which definitely is some personal gain.
And those who hire soldiers/police, they do this for a gain, too: they gain 'peace' (what exactly peace might be is up to them, they pay).
What is 'good' and 'evil' is just a definition. You could say we are free, and have soldiers and police to protect us. You also could say we are slaves to follow rules/laws, controlled by soldiers and police.
Its all a matter of your point of view.
Of course cultures have ways to control violence.
I don't say it's wrong to punish. And I don't say it's right to punish. Again, these are just opinions. Points of view.
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Originally Posted by Nelson Next, have you ever hurt another person, mentally or physically? Have you ever cut another person down or made them feel small? I bet you have. Or you've probably stolen something at least once, right? Have you ever gotten in a fist fight? Shouldn't you be punished if you have? If you are your own judge and there is no God, or you are God then would you justly punsih yourself for your actions? |
Yeah, sure I have done something that hurt someone else in some kind of way. Just like anyone else. Even a dead-born kid has hurt someone: his parents feelings. Left them alone with guilt.
Since you are stating that probably everyone has done something to hurt someone, you think everyone needs to be punished? Everyone will go to hell (or whatever your punishment might be) anyway?
Well, if I go to hell anyway, what point is there to fear it? If it will happen anyway I won't waste a thought about it. It's like fretting about tomorrows weather: Useless. Pointless.
And again, how should it be judged? I might have stolen food to feed homeless children. Is this 'evil' or 'good'? Killing someone might feel 'evil', but what about killing in selfdefense? In a war? Then it might have been 'good'. Or again, maybe not?
It's not that I say we should not be judged, I say we can't be judged, since there is no way to define whats 'evil' and whats 'good'.
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