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eric132 · 06-03-2010, 01:03 AM

Jenny 09-13-2007 01:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre (Post 110515)
In other words, the mental work resulted in neural changes, and those neural changes made it possible to get more out of the same muscle. Combined with physical exercise this would undoubtedly be much more effective than either alone (and there's a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that mental preparation improves results in physical activity, in many sports).
That's pretty cool.

Uplift 09-13-2007 02:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre (Post 110515)
Firstly I should say this is not an attempt to discredit or disparage your ideas, or shamanism. I'm replying solely because you said you want to try to comprehend how this works. I'm going to do my best to just present some information for your consideration.

The phenomenon is documented, and the documentation does actually go into the details of the changes involved. The most often cited research I've seen is that by G.H. Yue. In one particular study he and his colleagues measured various physiological changes and found that the improved strength could be attributed to an increase in cortical output signal, and not to an increase in muscle mass.

In other words, the mental work resulted in neural changes, and those neural changes made it possible to get more out of the same muscle. Combined with physical exercise this would undoubtedly be much more effective than either alone (and there's a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that mental preparation improves results in physical activity, in many sports).
Yes its true, thinking does result in many physical changes. For instance, thinking releases adrenaline, hormones and effects blood supply. Free divers utilise the skill. Your body reacts the same whether you think you see a snake on the path, or whether there is an actual snake on the path. Thinking also effects neural activity and pathways. What exactly is involved in changing neural activity and pathways? Muscle mass, as any one who has experience in developing it knows, or as any one who has grown from a few cells in the womb to an adult knows, is drastically effected by hormone levels and blood supply. Muscle mass can obviously be effected by thinking alone. Otherwise, hormones and blood supply don't effect it.

A classic example is in the book Holy Cow: An Indian Adventure, by Sarah Mcdonald.

Life Matters: 31 March* 2003* - Sarah McDonald - Holy Cow: an Indian Adventure

A couple of friends who are very sceptical about many of my beliefs read the book because an aquaintance of the authors, also sceptical about such things, whom they respect, witnessed the exact thing happen to the author, also a very respected person. My friends rang me up excitedly one day saying you've got to read this book, it's unbelievable, this lady grew breasts, her doctors witnessed it, you've gotta read it, its amasing. I haven't read it, but they keep telling me about the story, and how this 'normal' really respected lady had her whole beliefs turned upside down. We laugh about it. I don't need to read it.

cbreeze 09-13-2007 06:57 AM
changing your cellular structure

IMPO,

you most definitely can, the hardest part is believing it and visualizing a new probable self with consistency and expectency. No room for doubts if you are WILLing to do the changing of belief system work. I've done it to some extent - as a child/teen I was always rail thin then in my thirties up to 169lbs. Upon reading quantum articles from many energies that confirm your cells do what you tell them to do, for, you create your body/illusion on a daily basis - only prob is that in the morning you look at yourself in the mirror and expect to see the same image - remember - you get what you focus on. So, fed up with my weight I would internally tell my cells to remember (as it all stays stored in cellular memory) that you are once again thin. I did it and now weigh 117, 5"6', late forties. Did the same w/large pores which became smaller, and told my body to produce more collagen and I look ten years younger.

Much to your disbelief, it's true.

But, it goes that far. I had a reading eons ago that Seth said you can literally grow taller or shorter, grow hair even if you've never had it, and even look like anyone you'd like. Altho I believe that can be done, I haven't reached that kind of belief that I can look like Angelina Jolie or have large breasts which I'd like to read that book you recommended. How much time will it take? As long as you believe it will (as for my experiences). Nothing is etched in stone and we're all an illusion and maleable energy. GO FOR IT! Keep us posted! I am going to a retreat where they show ppl that look younger or who have changed a visible disability, etc. I'm a walk your talk kind of person and would like to see this. As JC said, "you can do and be like me, if you want to." Why not? But then again, comes the acceptance of yourself and the genes you're proud of inhereting. But, the ball is in our court, is my belief. Consistency and intense desire/belief is key. Good luck!

boat 09-13-2007 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbreeze (Post 110604)
IMPO,

you most definitely can, the hardest part is believing it and visualizing a new probable self with consistency and expectency. No room for doubts if you are WILLing to do the changing of belief system work. I've done it to some extent - as a child/teen I was always rail thin then in my thirties up to 169lbs. Upon reading quantum articles from many energies that confirm your cells do what you tell them to do, for, you create your body/illusion on a daily basis - only prob is that in the morning you look at yourself in the mirror and expect to see the same image - remember - you get what you focus on. So, fed up with my weight I would internally tell my cells to remember (as it all stays stored in cellular memory) that you are once again thin. I did it and now weigh 117, 5"6', late forties. Did the same w/large pores which became smaller, and told my body to produce more collagen and I look ten years younger.

Much to your disbelief, it's true.
Hey cbreeze. When you went from 169lbs to 117, was it all mentally, or did you also change your diet/exercise? Also, when reducing the size of your pores/producing more collagen, what sorts of visualizations did you do, and did you do them while meditating (do you meditate?) or did you just randomly think about your desire throughout your day? Or some other method?

Please elaborate. I'm very interested in trying out what you've done!

impaul99 09-13-2007 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by boat (Post 110611)
Hey cbreeze. When you went from 169lbs to 117, was it all mentally, or did you also change your diet/exercise? Also, when reducing the size of your pores/producing more collagen, what sorts of visualizations did you do, and did you do them while meditating (do you meditate?) or did you just randomly think about your desire throughout your day? Or some other method?

Please elaborate. I'm very interested in trying out what you've done!

Yeah me too!

cbreeze 09-17-2007 07:55 PM
"you are the artist, your body is your canvas"

Where to begin... let me start off by suggesting a book which is an easy read/instructions included; "The Nature of Personal Reality", channeled through Jane Roberts - a Seth book, along with logging in to the "Elias Forum", where you can use the search engine for comments/instructions supporting the efficacy and evidence of how to make miracles happen - and all, I'm finding out, IS mind made. There are a number of ways you can choose to reform your past body/thoughts; utilizing probable selves, conscious creation hypnotism that takes only five minutes, pretending is a good source/force which seems easy as we already practiced it as a kid, and imagination. All in aforementioned book.

I'm too lazy to do physial exercise nor meditate, but meditate by focusing my thoughts throughout the day and visualization, allowing, releasing and expecting it to happen - which will happen when you see it starting to happen. Losing this amt. of weight wasn't done overnight - I'd be on Oprah.

But, like catastrophies can happen, so can miracles Tell your cells what ever you want = they listen like a drone complying to the queen's commands.

Quotes from page 295; Nature of Personal Reality
"Elements, chemcials, cells, atoms and molecules partially compose your living sculpture for which you are the designer of and you are the one who directs their activity through your conscious beliefs, which then initiate all of of those great creative powers that give your body its life and insure its constant reflection of the self that you believe you are". If you believe you're overweight - practice pretending you're thin. Feel it then see it.

Check out pages; 87, 187, 229, 337, 338 358 359, just to name a few. Remember, you are the artist, your body - your canvas. Paint it, decorate it however YOU want to be wanting to expressing how you want to look.

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eric132 Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 70	Jenny 09-13-2007 01:02 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre (Post 110515) In other words, the mental work resulted in neural changes, and those neural changes made it possible to get more out of the same muscle. Combined with physical exercise this would undoubtedly be much more effective than either alone (and there's a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that mental preparation improves results in physical activity, in many sports). That's pretty cool. Uplift 09-13-2007 02:30 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre (Post 110515) Firstly I should say this is not an attempt to discredit or disparage your ideas, or shamanism. I'm replying solely because you said you want to try to comprehend how this works. I'm going to do my best to just present some information for your consideration. The phenomenon is documented, and the documentation does actually go into the details of the changes involved. The most often cited research I've seen is that by G.H. Yue. In one particular study he and his colleagues measured various physiological changes and found that the improved strength could be attributed to an increase in cortical output signal, and not to an increase in muscle mass. In other words, the mental work resulted in neural changes, and those neural changes made it possible to get more out of the same muscle. Combined with physical exercise this would undoubtedly be much more effective than either alone (and there's a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that mental preparation improves results in physical activity, in many sports). Yes its true, thinking does result in many physical changes. For instance, thinking releases adrenaline, hormones and effects blood supply. Free divers utilise the skill. Your body reacts the same whether you think you see a snake on the path, or whether there is an actual snake on the path. Thinking also effects neural activity and pathways. What exactly is involved in changing neural activity and pathways? Muscle mass, as any one who has experience in developing it knows, or as any one who has grown from a few cells in the womb to an adult knows, is drastically effected by hormone levels and blood supply. Muscle mass can obviously be effected by thinking alone. Otherwise, hormones and blood supply don't effect it. A classic example is in the book Holy Cow: An Indian Adventure, by Sarah Mcdonald. Life Matters: 31 March* 2003* - Sarah McDonald - Holy Cow: an Indian Adventure A couple of friends who are very sceptical about many of my beliefs read the book because an aquaintance of the authors, also sceptical about such things, whom they respect, witnessed the exact thing happen to the author, also a very respected person. My friends rang me up excitedly one day saying you've got to read this book, it's unbelievable, this lady grew breasts, her doctors witnessed it, you've gotta read it, its amasing. I haven't read it, but they keep telling me about the story, and how this 'normal' really respected lady had her whole beliefs turned upside down. We laugh about it. I don't need to read it. cbreeze 09-13-2007 06:57 AM changing your cellular structure IMPO, you most definitely can, the hardest part is believing it and visualizing a new probable self with consistency and expectency. No room for doubts if you are WILLing to do the changing of belief system work. I've done it to some extent - as a child/teen I was always rail thin then in my thirties up to 169lbs. Upon reading quantum articles from many energies that confirm your cells do what you tell them to do, for, you create your body/illusion on a daily basis - only prob is that in the morning you look at yourself in the mirror and expect to see the same image - remember - you get what you focus on. So, fed up with my weight I would internally tell my cells to remember (as it all stays stored in cellular memory) that you are once again thin. I did it and now weigh 117, 5"6', late forties. Did the same w/large pores which became smaller, and told my body to produce more collagen and I look ten years younger. Much to your disbelief, it's true. But, it goes that far. I had a reading eons ago that Seth said you can literally grow taller or shorter, grow hair even if you've never had it, and even look like anyone you'd like. Altho I believe that can be done, I haven't reached that kind of belief that I can look like Angelina Jolie or have large breasts which I'd like to read that book you recommended. How much time will it take? As long as you believe it will (as for my experiences). Nothing is etched in stone and we're all an illusion and maleable energy. GO FOR IT! Keep us posted! I am going to a retreat where they show ppl that look younger or who have changed a visible disability, etc. I'm a walk your talk kind of person and would like to see this. As JC said, "you can do and be like me, if you want to." Why not? But then again, comes the acceptance of yourself and the genes you're proud of inhereting. But, the ball is in our court, is my belief. Consistency and intense desire/belief is key. Good luck! boat 09-13-2007 08:25 AM Quote: Originally Posted by cbreeze (Post 110604) IMPO, you most definitely can, the hardest part is believing it and visualizing a new probable self with consistency and expectency. No room for doubts if you are WILLing to do the changing of belief system work. I've done it to some extent - as a child/teen I was always rail thin then in my thirties up to 169lbs. Upon reading quantum articles from many energies that confirm your cells do what you tell them to do, for, you create your body/illusion on a daily basis - only prob is that in the morning you look at yourself in the mirror and expect to see the same image - remember - you get what you focus on. So, fed up with my weight I would internally tell my cells to remember (as it all stays stored in cellular memory) that you are once again thin. I did it and now weigh 117, 5"6', late forties. Did the same w/large pores which became smaller, and told my body to produce more collagen and I look ten years younger. Much to your disbelief, it's true. Hey cbreeze. When you went from 169lbs to 117, was it all mentally, or did you also change your diet/exercise? Also, when reducing the size of your pores/producing more collagen, what sorts of visualizations did you do, and did you do them while meditating (do you meditate?) or did you just randomly think about your desire throughout your day? Or some other method? Please elaborate. I'm very interested in trying out what you've done! impaul99 09-13-2007 05:23 PM Quote: Originally Posted by boat (Post 110611) Hey cbreeze. When you went from 169lbs to 117, was it all mentally, or did you also change your diet/exercise? Also, when reducing the size of your pores/producing more collagen, what sorts of visualizations did you do, and did you do them while meditating (do you meditate?) or did you just randomly think about your desire throughout your day? Or some other method? Please elaborate. I'm very interested in trying out what you've done! Yeah me too! cbreeze 09-17-2007 07:55 PM "you are the artist, your body is your canvas" Where to begin... let me start off by suggesting a book which is an easy read/instructions included; "The Nature of Personal Reality", channeled through Jane Roberts - a Seth book, along with logging in to the "Elias Forum", where you can use the search engine for comments/instructions supporting the efficacy and evidence of how to make miracles happen - and all, I'm finding out, IS mind made. There are a number of ways you can choose to reform your past body/thoughts; utilizing probable selves, conscious creation hypnotism that takes only five minutes, pretending is a good source/force which seems easy as we already practiced it as a kid, and imagination. All in aforementioned book. I'm too lazy to do physial exercise nor meditate, but meditate by focusing my thoughts throughout the day and visualization, allowing, releasing and expecting it to happen - which will happen when you see it starting to happen. Losing this amt. of weight wasn't done overnight - I'd be on Oprah. But, like catastrophies can happen, so can miracles Tell your cells what ever you want = they listen like a drone complying to the queen's commands. Quotes from page 295; Nature of Personal Reality "Elements, chemcials, cells, atoms and molecules partially compose your living sculpture for which you are the designer of and you are the one who directs their activity through your conscious beliefs, which then initiate all of of those great creative powers that give your body its life and insure its constant reflection of the self that you believe you are". If you believe you're overweight - practice pretending you're thin. Feel it then see it. Check out pages; 87, 187, 229, 337, 338 358 359, just to name a few. Remember, you are the artist, your body - your canvas. Paint it, decorate it however YOU want to be wanting to expressing how you want to look.