[Johnny Skosnik]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

A while back I offered to help someone here get laid (can't share any more details as now it's a private convo) and I was thinking, gee I wonder how many good guys out there could actually use help like this. I know there's all kinds of sites, PUA sites, whatever sites, books etc. It doesn't really matter, what matters is that there are still good guys not getting laid. (hey there's more than one way to save the world)

Initially I was confused, I thought you meant helping women attract relationships. Okay you wanna help guys get laid. Cool. But wouldn't your advice be influenced by what you, personally, find hot; which might be different from what a woman your guy customer wants, would find hot.

In other words, say you like tough, aggressive men so you advise someone to join a gym and buy a leather jacket. But the type of woman your hypothetical client wants, wants quiet, introspective fellas.

In other other words, consider this:

Why the Best Relationship Advice for Men Comes From Other Men

A common mistake many men make is to seek relationship advice from their female friends. On the surface this seems logical. If a man is confused by a woman's responses, then who better to decipher the code than another woman?

In reality, unfortunately, women often give men relationship advice that is the exact opposite of what works. The advice may be well-intentioned, but it's bad advice. If the man tries to apply the advice he gets from other women, it will frequently generate weak results and leave him stranded and confused.

You may find this counter-intuitive. The first time someone explained this to me, it took a while to get my head around it. But after a while it began to make sense. And I couldn't deny that the advice from experienced men simply worked much better than any relationship advice I received from women.

One reason for this is that most women have little or no experience being in romantic relationships with other women. A guy who's been in just a handful of relationships will often give you much more practical and effective advice because his advice is based on real experiences relating to real women. Men and women are quite different when it comes to relationships. You can't simply take advice that works for a woman relating to a man and flip-flop it to make it work for a man relating to a woman. It would be great if relationships were so symmetrical, but in reality they just aren't.

Another problem is that what women say they respond to is often quite different from what they actually respond to. Women are subjected to a tremendous amount of social conditioning just as men are. Women are taught how "Mr. Right" is supposed to behave and what they should look for in a guy. When you ask a woman for relationship or dating advice, you'll often get her socially conditioned answer, but not the real truth. Women often have a good sense of what they've been taught to find attractive in a man, but they usually aren't as aware of what they actually find attractive in men. This is at least as confusing to women as it is to men.

The best relationship advice for men almost invariably comes from other men -- specifically from men who are very experienced and very good with women. Such men have figured out under real-world conditions what's effective and what isn't. They understand female psychology more deeply than most women do. They are masters of social dynamics. Some of these men have had the opportunity to engage romantically or flirtatiously with thousands of women. This level of experience allows them to notice patterns that other men -- and women -- miss completely.