[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Theo77

I guess the biggest problem, I have with your model Yossarian, is:
A: I am very skeptical of channeled material in general. There is a huge burden of proof upon it as far as I am concerned, that is almost never met.

Asuming psychic mediumship is 100% legit (a big assumption in and of itself) assuming people actually can channel people from the beyond, just because someone is another dimension, doesn't mean they know everything and it doesn't mean they can't lie and decieve people.

Very fair, and true.

Channeled stuff must be judged on the content itself first and foremost.

B. The model is too limited, in its terms of expression the two respective polarities. Or maybe you are looking at it in too limited a way. Like dark polarized people must be a military dictator, otherwise they are simply "dicking around" and aren't polarized.

I am into philosophy. My impression is that philosophy, the contemplative life, etc. Is primarily concerned with seeking wisdom and knowledge. So is that "lightworking?" To me it really doesn't seem to be the case. Its not religion. Its not about going around healing other people.

Now, if you say, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle,Nietzche, etc. Are basicallly lightweights (that other 99%.) I just can't take what you say seriously.

They are human.

IMO those 4 contributed a lot to humanity, and all 4 seemed quite selfless, so they were probably somewhere between 40% service to others and 70% service to others. But what do I know? I'm just guessing.

Where they were specifically just depends on the specifics of their life. And of course, their polarity would change constantly throughout their lives.

Almost no one is going to polarize beyond 80% service to others.

You don't have to be a military leader. According to the same source Rasputin the Russian mystic reached graduation threshold for service to self.

Knowledge and wisdom is basically just information. The use you put the knowledge to determines your polarity.

Science and philosophy is independant from polarity. Our knowledge of nuclear energy can be used to create nuclear bombs or nuclear power. Both uses can be for "bad" or "good" - basically they can be used to do whatever humans want to do with them.

Humans polarize with their intentions, with the work they do using their knowledge.

Now, I think there is somthing to this polarity stuff. I prefer to think the matter is not 100% settled as far as I am concerned. That leaves me open to a lot of new information. I can't just take channeled material and say the matter has been decided and follow it dogmatically, like a Biblical literalists or somthing.

I certainly would not encourage you to. It took me many weeks of comtemplation on each of these specific issues to eventually decide on what was true for me and what was not. In the end I decided that the information in The Law of One was highly congruent with what I previously knew to be true, and also that the source was reliable and high quality. The far majority of channeled information I read, I find to be of low utility to myself and I consider it low quality, although I'm aware that that just means I don't resonate with it. It's likely that each particular source is useful to someone.

Information is like throwing spaghetti against a wall. Most of it falls to the ground, some of it sticks. The way i've determined my own beliefs is by throwing spaghetti at myself and seeing what sticks.

There are many great people of history to look back on that accomplished great things and they weren't all either healers or military conquerors.

I totally agree. Everyone has their own unique brand of service, and no service is less worthy than any other.

Not every self-service individual desires to conquer the world. Some just want to conquer their own personal life.

What is power if you can't do whatever you want with it? A highly polarized person will achieve his desires whatever they may be.

I use Jesus and Genghis Khan as examples because I'm very very familiar with their lives and so i'm very comfortable speaking about their behaviours, intentions, motivations, and polarity. I'm less familiar with other examples like Rasputin and Buddha, so I tend not to talk as much about them.

If we were all meant to be carbon copies of famous people, life would be pretty boring wouldn't it?

IMO there have been millions of people throughout history who reached graduation range, and millions today who are within the graduation range. The graduation range is what determines where people will go when Earth moves into the next density. No path is worse or better than any other, and I stress that there is no reason to feel anxious about any of this.

The densities are as follow:

1st density: Raw matter. Earth. Rocks, soil, chemicals, light, energy.
2nd density: Life. Plants, animals, living things.
3rd density: Social life. Societies of conscious beings. Discovering the power of consciousness - the power of love.
4th density: Love/Understanding. Having discovered the power of love/consciousness, perfecting it's usage.
5th density: Wisdom.
6th density: Unity. Unifying new-found wisdom with old passion. The love that was cultivated in 4th density is unified with the wisdom gained in 5th density. Negative polarity accepts unity and melds with positive polarity.
7th density: Moving towards timelessness, foreverness, and all-beingness.
8th density/1st density: The first density of the next octave. The octaves go on for forever.

The densities have symmetry with the chakras, and this pattern is ubiquitous throughout creation.

1st chakra/Red: Survival and basic instinct
2nd chakra/Orange: Individuality and relations to other individuals
3rd chakra/Yellow: Relations with large groups of people. Societies.
4th chakra/Green: Universal love
5th chakra/Blue: Communication, radiation
6th chakra/Indigo: Magical power, intentions
7th chakra/Violet: Divinity