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Truefire · 03-30-2007, 05:54 AM

Science and spirituality probably won't end up in the same place anytime soon. Any attempts to unite the two fall flat and are usually based on scientific misunderstanding by the spiritualists.

For example, discoveries in quantum theory had people thinking that science had finally found "the answer." In reality, they just found more math problems to finish. The Secret is way too into this IMO. I mean seriously, you get a couple physicists saying that matter and energy is the same, then you get the makers of The Secret to finish off the thought by saying "thoughts are energy, therefore thoughts ARE THINGS." There's nothing scientific about that. Its a logical flaw. I believe that the LOA works because I've seen it work, even if the laws of probability aren't working in my favor.

Or, I can remember a Buddhist book saying that the modern discoveries of atoms were in line with a quote from the Buddha. Buddha said that reality was a massive network of interconnected jewels(or something like that, I can't remember the quote and it was translation from a completely different language and culture). So some monks jumped on that fact and called atoms jewels. I'm not saying there's no truth there, just that you can't jump to foolish conclusions, just because it makes your beliefs more secure

Science is specifically a study of objective reality from an objective point of view. And it's oh so interesting...quarks, quasars, blackholes, singularity, space-time, time-travel, antimatter, quantum leaps, etc(mindblowingness

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Science says: X is so because of Y. A little bland but still interesting if thats your thing, just dont expect to discover the number 42 to pop into your calculations.

Spirituality is a study of reality from the first person perspective. Here you really get to make your own choice about how to explore your own version. There is no right or wrong answer. There is certainly no objective answer.
Spirituality says: I believe... [insert your definition based on your experience of reality, without subscribing to useless dogma or scientific misunderstanding]

03-30-2007, 05:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
Truefire Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 112	Science and spirituality probably won't end up in the same place anytime soon. Any attempts to unite the two fall flat and are usually based on scientific misunderstanding by the spiritualists. For example, discoveries in quantum theory had people thinking that science had finally found "the answer." In reality, they just found more math problems to finish. The Secret is way too into this IMO. I mean seriously, you get a couple physicists saying that matter and energy is the same, then you get the makers of The Secret to finish off the thought by saying "thoughts are energy, therefore thoughts ARE THINGS." There's nothing scientific about that. Its a logical flaw. I believe that the LOA works because I've seen it work, even if the laws of probability aren't working in my favor. Or, I can remember a Buddhist book saying that the modern discoveries of atoms were in line with a quote from the Buddha. Buddha said that reality was a massive network of interconnected jewels(or something like that, I can't remember the quote and it was translation from a completely different language and culture). So some monks jumped on that fact and called atoms jewels. I'm not saying there's no truth there, just that you can't jump to foolish conclusions, just because it makes your beliefs more secure Science is specifically a study of objective reality from an objective point of view. And it's oh so interesting...quarks, quasars, blackholes, singularity, space-time, time-travel, antimatter, quantum leaps, etc(mindblowingness ) Science says: X is so because of Y. A little bland but still interesting if thats your thing, just dont expect to discover the number 42 to pop into your calculations. Spirituality is a study of reality from the first person perspective. Here you really get to make your own choice about how to explore your own version. There is no right or wrong answer. There is certainly no objective answer. Spirituality says: I believe... [insert your definition based on your experience of reality, without subscribing to useless dogma or scientific misunderstanding]