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Originally Posted by Cantando

As God is spirit, he cannot be apprehended through the physical senses. Imagine a world where no-one had a sense of hearing. The scientist would then observe, analyze and conclude through the remaining senses. Some guy then comes along who has a sense of hearing and says "I can hear bells ringing". The scientist asks him to explain. The guy gives a garbled explanation in terms of the remaining senses. The scientist shakes his head and thinks, "This guy is nuts". God does not exist in scientific terms. I don't even have to believe in God or have faith, I know he is there. If God wasn't there, the scientist wouldn't exist.

I made a relevant post in a thread that now seems to have gone dead. Unfortunate as I was looking forward to a reply.

Why has no one claimed the one million dollars?

Originally Posted by One

To reply more completely, I'll say that I don't understand the stigma many people seem to have with science and its validity. Most of science is just careful measurement. Think of it this way: If something is real, it has an effect. I mean effect in the most general way possible, don't think of it in terms of lifting cars with your mind or predicting the future on demand. If I ask you about anything you tell me by it's effects. Even if it's the wall in front of you and it's effects on your pressure sensitive hands and the light it bounces into your eyes. Even if it's your intuition and the statistically improving effect it has on your decision making.

When you experience psychic phenomena, you are in effect measuring it. It has an effect on you. Scientific measurement is the same measurement. It exists in the same world, only with science the effect is measured in controlled situations where other variables are removed. You've probably done something like this as well. If have a medical problem and want to find an effective medication you use only one at a time. If you used multiple medicines at the same time you wouldn't know which was having what effect.