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Old 03-29-2007, 09:36 AM   #24 (permalink)
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It could be true! but science in the modern sense did not exist prior to two hundred years ago. No peer reviewed paper has ever claimed the world was flat. Aside-I don't think the educated class believed the world was flat in the time of Columbus. It was a popular belief among the peasants as with many other folk beliefs.
Also, I don't believe science has ever claimed the automobile was impossible. I've never heard of your mental institution example, but I believe the first wireless transmission was by David E. Hughes. Who was sane.

Also it's interesting how far back one must go for examples.
Hughes was originally put into an asylum by his friends, accredited academics, when he first announced his discovery. He was released however When it turned out he was right and not mad.

That was my point.

Go do some research on Mr Benz, you will find he was cast out of his research circles and even his own partner abandoned him ashamed of his mad idea for a 'mechanical horse'.

As for going far back. I wouldn't call less than a hundred years that far. Plus, there have been very few truly paradigm shifting discoveries in recent years, despite our massive recent technological advancements, they have almost all been in fields that are part of the current paradigm. Electronics advancements all build upon pre-establish ideas of previous discoveries, few truly new things are being discovered, existing things are just getting smaller, faster and more powerful.

Same with medical discoveries, they just mix the same old drugs around and look for new effects. A friend of mine works for a drug company and he agrees with me on this. He says all they do is semi-randomly mix established drugs and chemicals and then test to see what effects are. They don't do research outside of that.

Why? Because it's not financially viable to be a ground breaker unless you succeed. Finance generally drives science these days.

A couple of more recent examples -
Windows Bill was also told he was mad.
Men in outer space
Antibiotics

Even the internet wasn't a paradigm shift, it's all built upon phone, computer and television technology and ideas essentially.

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It is my sincere hope that you don't hold this opinion when choosing a Doctor.
It is, and that's why I generally don't go to them. That is exactly what their doctorate was, learn all the 'facts' about medicine and then do them just as we taught you. No where are modern doctors taught to think outside the box or look into revolutionary technologies. That gets them sued.

I used to work in Universities, and I have met and worked with a lot of 'Doctors' with big accredited degrees. I found that I knew more than almost every one of the IT 'doctors' at these universities, but I didn't have a degree.

Degrees prove you can learn and repeat. Little else. Even getting a doctorate requires you predominantly to provide references for your work and opinion rather than free new thought. If you did no research and went out on a limb to propose a completely new theory, you would get laughed at and failed.

You get a doctorate by showing old knowlege reformatted, edited and resubmitted.

Either way. I want to some hear more from Aaron, not you, so please follow his advice and find a thread where people agree with you.

EDIT: oops everyone posted before I finished. I am with you Ether. I am goign to stop talking to One from now on. Aaron please continue with the information!
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