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Old 03-28-2007, 08:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Science has undeniable proof that electricity exists. It has been seen in the sense that it can be measured, its effect can be detected and the electron certainly exists. And your PC is working.

A similar argument for magnetism.

Both are reasonably well understood. Particularly electricity.

No science lecturer would answer that a thing called cold exists, he'd say that it was a *relative* lack of heat. Whilst darkness is a lack of light.

Strong evidence of evolution exists, fossil records, etc. Strong evidence of a garden with a snake, an apple tree and an incestuous family does not exist.

"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it,
touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the
established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that
you have no brain, sir."

The brain surgeon who removed the professors tumor a few years before is fortunately visiting and puts his hand up to disagree. As do all the people who saw the professors x-rays.

The student will not have to take the claims of science on faith. The lecturer will teach science using explanations, examples, mathematical proofs and experimental proof. The student will go to a lab and see the effects of electricity and magnetism. He will learn about evolution from the lecturer who will also present *evidence*.

And when the student asks "why?" the lecturer will answer his question with a proper explanation and accompanying evidence. He will not say "because God made it" or "because the Lord works in mysterious ways".

God, or the church, will not present evidence. They will say "this is how things are. believe them" and the student will have to have faith.

Now, I'm not atheist, I do not actively disbelieve in God. But I do not believe in him blindly.

You should realise that you do yourself no favours by telling biased stories and attacking scientific knowledge. You should accept science though believe that it is only a tool to explain aspects of the way God made the universe work.

And where science strongly conflicts with your religion (eg. if you are a creationist) then I would suggest either

a) Saying..."oh...erm...yes...well the whole Adam and Eve thing was a metaphor! Erm...obviously" as many religious people have done.

b) Seriously reconsider the basis of your faith.....It's at that suggestion that a lot of religious people put their hands over their ears and go "la la la la la...". Those are the people that I have no respect for. If your faith does not even stand up to your own scrutiny then you really are blind.

A friend of mine was a christian because he was raised that way. Made to go to church. Told that the bible was fact, etc. He recently took the time to consider his own opinions and whether he had any real reason to believe in these things other than he'd been told to and he wanted to (ie. it'd be nice if God did exist and he was going to go to heaven). He decided he didn't and is now no longer a christian and quickly heading towards atheist.

That's up to him. And some people might think about the basis of their faith and decide that they stand by it. That's up to them.

It's the ones that blindly follow that worry me.

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