[Shindra]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Once a lightworker realizes that have to help themselves - how does that individual motivate helping themselves if they have (according to Steve) worked more effeciently by being polarized to serving others first? It seems the properly motivated polarized lightworker would have difficulty motivating him/herself to help themselves. I say the lightworker is already able to help themselves as a precondition to being able to help others. Was a darkworker and grew into a lightworker.

Let's say you're motivated to... give a speech. Then you're deeply motivated to get in a car or/and on a plane to give that speech. Let's say you want to blog for the good of all. Then you're motivated to buy a computer. Let's say you want to put out better content, then you're motivated to have more energy and clearer thinking, improving your health and removing distractions.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

If a lightworker must help themselves in order to not be in the syndrome - how does that feel to a lightworker versus a darkworker? What is different about the motivation to give to self of a lightworker trying to avoid being in the syndrome versus just a darkworker's motivation to serve self?

It's an enthusiastic feeling of working towards giving, creativity, contribution. Increasing capacity for giving. Words are not feelings, so this is next to impossible to say if the words don't resonate within yourself.
For a bit of caricature, let's say... "If I had superpowers, I could save the world!" (having superpowers is obviously a strengthened self)
Dark: "If I had superpowers, I could conquer the world!"

Originally Posted by wolfgang

I tend to think starting as a lightworker without knowing how to be motivated to help one's self IS NOT possible. But the converse IS possible - to operate as a darkworker first then grow into or add the lightworker motivations. To be motivated to help one's self is not just to avoid being in the lightworker's sydrome but as something that must be installed or be experienced first before expanding your influence to others.

Even the stupidest beginning lightworker would know to eat.
For a very low light-worker, think of someone who has next to no self-worth. No compassion for their own flaws, no acceptance of themselves. They let people step all over them. Maybe they get in a very abusive relationship. They gradually begin to realize that that isn't right, that's not a good example to set, and they can't help other people get higher up by being a doormat, flat and low.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Self-love has this polarity is what you are saying and both polarities, when healthy, have self-love. It is different to be arrogant and egotistical versus loving and caring. But I don't really see being arrogant or egotistical as a form of love - it's a form of putting oneself on a pedistal - of being vane - of attachment to being great.

Fine, then don't call it love. That's cool. I also have a tendency to restrict the word 'love' to the lightworker side most of the time. It's just that Steve used it, so we had to clear that up.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

When that feeling of being most important extends to others - what happens to the motivation polarity? Does polarity exist at all then?

it's still the same feeling, and others' importance is seen *directly in relation to self-importance*. Though, I don't know, maybe somewhere high high up on the scale of levels of consciousness, maybe above enlightenment, the two begin to feel the same - some kind of pure passion/enthusiasm.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Again, I'm not sure that one can know how to give to others without first knowing how to give to him/herself. To operate without giving to self would imediatly be a syndrome lightworker.

Someone on the dark side can have immediate/early/lowconsciousnesslevel syndrome by destroying the world around them. Think of someone full of hate, with inner conflicts of shame and guilt - the other side of polarization to the 'worthless doormat' person. A teenager who shoots everyone at their school, hates life, shoots themselves in an effort to defy life and everybody and get them down and make them feel guilt.
Of course, both worthless and hating are examples of someone who are *leaning to that side* not people who Are polarizED, because someone who is polarized has clarity and is filled with positive emotions. That teenager, while acting with fear, clearly does not recognize their own importance, or even knows to surround themselves with the features of a good, or even comfortable life. That worthless-feeling person clearly is not filled with feelings of compassion and love, and a great motivation to do the best they can to create a great world for all.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

It shouldn't be so subtle.

subtle in words, drastic in basic motivation. The problem is that words are applied to both - for example as we saw with self-love. And a lightworker can also be said to want to aquire, for example artist's tools out of a passion for creative work.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Create or aquire - is that another way of seeing this polarity?

Well, yea..h. They are thin, simplified examples. Don't get too attached to them.
I mentioned aquire up there. Create, think of someone wanting to 'create a business empire'. That's a different feeling/energy there.

Aquire artist's tools = creativity, giving... unless they're thinking about the social status of being a famous artist, all the money from selling, and the stroking of their ego by the fame and reviews.
Create business empire = Increase power... unless they're lovingly thinking of building a business where people really like to work, a business that sets example for being successful while being enviromentally friendly, and intends to donate the profits to charity.

see what I mean by 'subtle' words... they can all mean different things.

And maybe the business owner only wants a healthy environment because they have to live in it, happy and highly conscious employees because that will make for a better and more powerful business (more power for themselves), and donate to charity to gain better status and/or improve *their* world.
And maybe the artist's fame was not for their ego, but so they could get a positive, loving message out, and the money for helping others.