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Originally Posted by Shindra

The darkworker realizes others' importance in achieving what's best for the darkworker. You get further up on the shoulders of giants and backs of eagles, than you do stepping on ants, even anthills.

Motivation is needed, correct.

A darkworker does pay attention to others. After all, power is something they have over(when at lower levels) and among and with (on higher levels) others. They need capable people to serve them.
It's not about ignoring others, or not realizing there are others, at all. Instead of serving others in the idea of compassionate oneness, they make others grand because of the importance of them in relation to making themselves enjoy better lives.

They are always ultimately motivated to serve themselves. Where do their stuff come from? From others. Darkworkers can only do so much by themselves.

Just as lightworkers, when they get past their syndrome, realize they have to help themselves in order to be able to help others.

Once a lightworker realizes that have to help themselves - how does that individual motivate helping themselves if they have (according to Steve) worked more effeciently by being polarized to serving others first? It seems the properly motivated polarized lightworker would have difficulty motivating him/herself to help themselves. I say the lightworker is already able to help themselves as a precondition to being able to help others. Was a darkworker and grew into a lightworker.

If a lightworker must help themselves in order to not be in the syndrome - how does that feel to a lightworker versus a darkworker? What is different about the motivation to give to self of a lightworker trying to avoid being in the syndrome versus just a darkworker's motivation to serve self?

I tend to think starting as a lightworker without knowing how to be motivated to help one's self IS NOT possible. But the converse IS possible - to operate as a darkworker first then grow into or add the lightworker motivations. To be motivated to help one's self is not just to avoid being in the lightworker's sydrome but as something that must be installed or be experienced first before expanding your influence to others.

The self-love a darkworker experiences feel different. Think arrogance. Try to feel your own egoistical importance.
Then drop that, be calm.
Then try feeling loving compassion and caring for yourself.
The difference is clear.

Self-love has this polarity is what you are saying and both polarities, when healthy, have self-love. It is different to be arrogant and egotistical versus loving and caring. But I don't really see being arrogant or egotistical as a form of love - it's a form of putting oneself on a pedistal - of being vane - of attachment to being great.

Also, it is true that darkworkers don't feel afraid, anxious - they've conquered, moved beyond, their fears. They feel unstoppably powerful and undeniably important. They act to express and experience more of that power.
It's more that the darkworkers starting point is one of fear, survival, and power over others. Then they realize others' importance to themselves, and that feeling of being the most important being in the universe extends to others.

When that feeling of being most important extends to others - what happens to the motivation polarity? Does polarity exist at all then?

A lightworker starts at the feelings of humility and compassion, and move to greater love, also giving this love to themselves, seeing the perfection and beauty in all - again an idea that everybody are intensely valuable.

So it looks the same, the difference in words is subtle, but notice that it *feels very different*, and that what you want to do right now - "create!" / "aquire!" - is different.

Again, I'm not sure that one can know how to give to others without first knowing how to give to him/herself. To operate without giving to self would imediatly be a syndrome lightworker.

It shouldn't be so subtle. Create or aquire - is that another way of seeing this polarity?