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Old 03-25-2007, 06:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
Iksander
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I also feel, and I am often guilty of it myself, that people forget there is no possible way to conclusively establish an absolute judgement of another person. For the exact reason that reality is entirely subjective - all 'truth' that we come to know (and believe) is based entirely upon sensory information impressed upon our consciousness. Which, due to personal preferences and personal experiences is in itself a subjective process.

That ties in, greatly, with how we as individuals 'conceive' of our brethren - if your conception of another is not consistent with their highest desires for themselves (how they WANT to be themselves) you end up bringing out those qualities that you are conceiving them of being. So, first I love this post because I think it will help other people define these two terms in a manner that doesn't carry so much distortion - allowing them to, in a sense, have a more relaxed and more allowing conception of those around them. Ultimately this benefits all, because the object of attention is being allowed full and true expression within the perceptions of the attention giver.

Often times the use of 'light-worker' and 'dark-worker' are such weak terms to me, mostly because it has such a 'fluffiness' to it that does not give justice to the actual state of the character values the individual is expressing.

This whole 'concept' in and of itself is complex and a simple, effective, and justifying attribute to basically describe the same thing - would be that of joy. If you experience joy on the path you are leading, then seriously, who cares if you are a light-worker or dark-worker? The attainment of joy is enlightenment. Viewed as such, enlightenment really sounds kind of easy... ('well gosh, I enjoyed my cereal this morning...').

As has been said - at the point of enlightenment Service To Self, and Service To Other are just the same thing and well summarized in a well known phrase:

"One for all and all for one."

So why complicate this enlightened description with a duality based conception? Duality is an inherent part of our physical experience, but 'Joy' and 'Enlightenment' are the harmonia Pythagoras spoke of, a state that is natural to us - a state, that will invariably fall back to dualism once a new element is introduced (change and growth) and is perceived by the experiencing body as either 'bad' or 'good' and develops a new point of desire for attaining harmonia.

I do feel, that concerning oneself with these 'lower states' is like a warrior worrying about what kind of moss to wipe his butt with.

Well, in a way I might see a meaningful reason for contemplating a 'most efficient' route when dealing with these 'lower states' - but that still can be answered in the manner of which would be most enjoyable? Does the warrior need to analyze the antibiotic qualities of this moss vs the sponginess of another? Just git'erdone!

[Edit]

My last statement just made me think, well - how many levels of 'lower states' are there? One mans butt wiping, could be another's kingdom... So - I suppose I will not go down that road ATM as I am tired, and philosophy is an exhausting exercise.

Wonderful topic, and as always - these are my own opinions, perspectives, and thoughts.

Last edited by Iksander; 03-25-2007 at 06:58 AM.
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