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Cantando · 03-23-2007, 07:08 PM

Some religious texts talk about the void which existed at the beginning when God said “Let there be light”. So, did God (or consciousness) exist separately from the void or was he in fact THE void? I don't know. It's far beyond me to work it out.
Here's an idea – maybe God was the void and at some point he became aware of himself and thus became conscious, then BANG! He exploded his consciousness outwards into an infinite number of separate consciousnesses. The parallel in this physical universe is the cosmic explosion which created all the suns and stars (as in heaven, so below). If we go with this parallel, all the suns and stars are units of God consciousness with the void separating them.
We, as human beings, came into being as sprouts or seeds from our own home sun of consciousness. Each sun of consciousness is God is going through the same process as each of us – seeking and discovering more about himself and his creations. He sends us out as emissaries into the far flung reaches of his kingdom to bring information back to him “to boldly go where no man has gone before”. We can see echoes of this in the great adventures and epics in fiction and non-fiction.
He infinitely expands outwards (into the macrocosm), creating more versions of himself. He also looks into the infinity of himself (the microcosm) at his constantly expanding universe within.
Well, what's all this got to do with the price of fish?
Well, as we journey outwards from our home sun of consciousness, to which we are attached by an umbilical cord, a spiritual lifeline, we travel through the void and hit upon other units of consciousness, by which we have our good and not so good experiences.
As long as we have a strong lifeline and spiritual friends to help us, we are relatively safe.
But what about the other not so good entities we meet in our travels?
Here is found the stuff of myth and legend – the demons, monsters and vampires. Do they exist? Yes. These beings may have been incarnated on earth, but I suspect a lot of them are from other 'suns of consciousness' and have little knowledge of us. Well, what makes them nasty? Well, we have the stories of Lucifer and fallen angels who got a bit too big for their boots. As they went out on their adventures, at some point they thought they didn't really need the lifeline back to source and began to indulge in their own fantasies and creations from which were born the typical religious sins of lust, greed, pride, etc. Their spiritual lifelines began to shrink through their own free will, and less light began to come through. So, they then became glowing, red embers in the void – losing their spiritual light and slowly dying. The only way they thought they could get sustenance was by hijacking any hapless soul who came along. And here is where the legends of vampires come from. These dying entities would endeavour to trap souls and suck the life energy from them. I suspect that some of these entities do eventually die by plugging off completely their lifeline back to source. Then, their light goes out completely, leaving them as fossilized rocks floating in the void. Others may eventually realize their folly and cry out for help. A cry for help never goes unheard, and some spiritual being will always come to their aid.
So, what do we have – a void in which which suns of consciousness are shining? Will we ultimately all join together so that there is no more void, only light?
As we move up into higher spiritual levels, are terms like God and consciousness now a bit defunct?
Am I only conscious when I am conscious of something, i.e. directing my light of perception onto it? If I am conscious of the void, does that mean I am the void? Or is the void separate from consciousness?
After studying eastern philosophy from the 1960s, onwards, I feel I am now ready to move on. So I will boldly say there is no infinite consciousness which knows all and is aware of all. There is an infinity of units of consciousness with the power of expanding infinitely through the joy of discovering and knowing other forms of consciousness. What we think of as God is just our home sun of consciousness. God is next door as well, as another sun of consciousness.
Don't stay on the same floor. Press the button and move up to the next.
Enjoy the trip and don't snooze too long.

03-23-2007, 07:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cantando Family Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,436	Which came first – God or the Void? Some religious texts talk about the void which existed at the beginning when God said “Let there be light”. So, did God (or consciousness) exist separately from the void or was he in fact THE void? I don't know. It's far beyond me to work it out. Here's an idea – maybe God was the void and at some point he became aware of himself and thus became conscious, then BANG! He exploded his consciousness outwards into an infinite number of separate consciousnesses. The parallel in this physical universe is the cosmic explosion which created all the suns and stars (as in heaven, so below). If we go with this parallel, all the suns and stars are units of God consciousness with the void separating them. We, as human beings, came into being as sprouts or seeds from our own home sun of consciousness. Each sun of consciousness is God is going through the same process as each of us – seeking and discovering more about himself and his creations. He sends us out as emissaries into the far flung reaches of his kingdom to bring information back to him “to boldly go where no man has gone before”. We can see echoes of this in the great adventures and epics in fiction and non-fiction. He infinitely expands outwards (into the macrocosm), creating more versions of himself. He also looks into the infinity of himself (the microcosm) at his constantly expanding universe within. Well, what's all this got to do with the price of fish? Well, as we journey outwards from our home sun of consciousness, to which we are attached by an umbilical cord, a spiritual lifeline, we travel through the void and hit upon other units of consciousness, by which we have our good and not so good experiences. As long as we have a strong lifeline and spiritual friends to help us, we are relatively safe. But what about the other not so good entities we meet in our travels? Here is found the stuff of myth and legend – the demons, monsters and vampires. Do they exist? Yes. These beings may have been incarnated on earth, but I suspect a lot of them are from other 'suns of consciousness' and have little knowledge of us. Well, what makes them nasty? Well, we have the stories of Lucifer and fallen angels who got a bit too big for their boots. As they went out on their adventures, at some point they thought they didn't really need the lifeline back to source and began to indulge in their own fantasies and creations from which were born the typical religious sins of lust, greed, pride, etc. Their spiritual lifelines began to shrink through their own free will, and less light began to come through. So, they then became glowing, red embers in the void – losing their spiritual light and slowly dying. The only way they thought they could get sustenance was by hijacking any hapless soul who came along. And here is where the legends of vampires come from. These dying entities would endeavour to trap souls and suck the life energy from them. I suspect that some of these entities do eventually die by plugging off completely their lifeline back to source. Then, their light goes out completely, leaving them as fossilized rocks floating in the void. Others may eventually realize their folly and cry out for help. A cry for help never goes unheard, and some spiritual being will always come to their aid. So, what do we have – a void in which which suns of consciousness are shining? Will we ultimately all join together so that there is no more void, only light? As we move up into higher spiritual levels, are terms like God and consciousness now a bit defunct? Am I only conscious when I am conscious of something, i.e. directing my light of perception onto it? If I am conscious of the void, does that mean I am the void? Or is the void separate from consciousness? After studying eastern philosophy from the 1960s, onwards, I feel I am now ready to move on. So I will boldly say there is no infinite consciousness which knows all and is aware of all. There is an infinity of units of consciousness with the power of expanding infinitely through the joy of discovering and knowing other forms of consciousness. What we think of as God is just our home sun of consciousness. God is next door as well, as another sun of consciousness. Don't stay on the same floor. Press the button and move up to the next. Enjoy the trip and don't snooze too long.