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Old 03-18-2007, 03:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
Sam988
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot View Post
Manifest whatever you like. Whatever would convince you. But if you're starting with the premise, "Nothing that happens in my life, no matter how absolutely amazing or miraculous, would convince me about LOA ...... unless I am first told by some magazine article or book that there is a bunch of scientists whom I've never met in my entire life and don't personally know, who have scientifically & conclusively demonstrated that LOA works ..." ... well, I have to say that sounds really rather stupid.
Actually i already started an experiment with LoA 2 days ago, im trying to manifest a real (same as a dollar here in brazil), see if i find it somewhere on the floor or wherever, lets see what results i'll get. And believe me, im not ignorant, i can distinguish coincidence from events that are very against the odds. The events you state on your blog are obviously against the odds, but since they didnt happen to me, how can i possibly be supposed to be sure of the existence of LoA?


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In 2007, there can be many things which would be unscientific to believe in, because these things cannot be scientifically proven. But I still believe that my mother loves me, for though it is unscientific to believe that, I can experience her love for myself. I still believe in LOA, for though it is unscientific to believe that, I can test it for myself every day in my own life, to my own satisfaction, and I have.

Have you?

Or do you still think that your mother does not love you?
The difference is that i already had enough proofs to believe my mother loves me. But i didnt have enough proofs to believe LoA exists, even though im making some experiments, i still didnt collect results, so only time will answer it. To get me convinced, i didnt need to find an article in a science magazine saying "Hey Samuel, your mom loves you, so be happy". I just know she loves me, because i have enough proofs, which i still dont have when it comes to LoA.


About the rest of your argument, im not saying that a thing thats not scientifically proven doesnt exist. Im saying that just because something is not scientifically proven, you cant relate it to an explanation created by your mind to explain it, like the church linking the "possessed guy" to the existence of angels, devil and god. So, just because our brain can do some amazing stuff that hasnt been scientifically explained yet, like healing ourselves, or having ESP, it doesnt mean that one of the theories people create to explain it is real, like LoA.


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By the way, you may be interested in this book - Glimpses of the Devil. The author Scott Peck was a psychiatrist with a lifetime's experience in treating psychiatric patients. He says that genuine cases of demonic possession are extremely, extremely rare, but that they do exist. His book relates two cases which he personally encountered.
Alright man, first convince me of LoA, then we can go to other stuff like the Devil and whatever else you feel like... ok?

Actually thats why i have a step back about faith. When i give up reason, anything can be plausible to believe in. And blowing myself for 72 virgins in heaven like the kamikazi bombermans out there wouldnt be so scary anymore.
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